I wanna buy this beater, but...

Cool_Steve · April 21st, 2009, 08:36 PM

I think the motor is toast.

I've been offered a 1993 Buick Regal Custom (base model), 3800 series motor (the good oldschool V6) with 332,000kms. Its been sitting for at least two years in the bodyshop compound at my work. $75, farm car, etc. Was a daily driver up until it was parked.

After ***king around trying to get a damn battery connection with the booster, I finally got it started (with throttle). BUT, it will not idle without holding throttle, even after running for 15-20 seconds. It let out a HUGE cloud of white smoke when started (and still while it ran but not as much), and the oil pressure is sky ***king high (has full instermentation). And the motor started to smoke (lots of tree debris on it) and when I checked the dipstick (there is oil) there was smoke coming out of the dipstick hole. I could smell burnt oil.

So, toast? It wont idle without gas at all, its got high oil pressure, and something inside the motor is smoking. Also has no gas cap. If this car is done I don't care, I have another Regal I may get with alot less k.

Keegz · April 21st, 2009, 08:40 PM

Nah dude she prolly just needs a good run. Give it some fresh oil and check the plugs and wires. Maybe seafoam too.

00bluees · April 21st, 2009, 08:46 PM

why? you have two beaters that as far as i'm concerned you don't even beat on. after watching the davefarm videos i concluded you drove far too slow and listened to some creepy pedophile looking dude telling you what to do.

i guess my farmside definition of a beater is different. its called get your hands on a car for free or at least less than $100, make it run, rip around in a field, build jumps, hit jumps, crash into tractor, drive tractor on top of car THEN switch drivers and do it all again.

mind you doing it our way only results in a beater car for about 2 hours if you are lucky. but damn son, you have good memories.

Cool_Steve · April 21st, 2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Keegz

Nah dude she prolly just needs a good run. Give it some fresh oil and check the plugs and wires. Maybe seafoam too.

Since its a farm car, the most I will do is try to weasel a free oil change from the express lube at my work. Isn't it bad to run a motor at high oil pressure? And why won't it idle?

I keep thinking its gonna catch fire, too. With that bit of smoke coming up from the dipstick hole.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00bluees

why? you have two beaters that as far as i'm concerned you don't even beat on. after watching the davefarm videos i concluded you drove far too slow and listened to some creepy pedophile looking dude telling you what to do.

i guess my farmside definition of a beater is different. its called get your hands on a car for free or at least less than $100, make it run, rip around in a field, build jumps, hit jumps, crash into tractor, drive tractor on top of car THEN switch drivers and do it all again.

mind you doing it our way only results in a beater car for about 2 hours if you are lucky. but damn son, you have good memories.

Hey, I'll be beating on those Corolla's more this year

. I didn't even have time with the '90 yet, I kinda just dropped it off. Also, yes, I needed to drive faster too. Do some real damage. Maybe I can talk down this current Buick to $50.

Keegz · April 21st, 2009, 08:56 PM

Clean any debris off the actual motor itself so you can get a better look at everything. When I got my truck last year the motor smoked really badly. Turned out there was just some oil leaking out from a valve cover gasket.

Zero oil pressure is bad. High oil pressure... just means youre getting more oil to the top of the motor... probably a bad sender unit.

Remove the air filter and check all the plugs and wires. If if hasn't run in 2 years the bad gas wont help it idle smoothly. My friend had a truck that he dumped 5 gallons of "chunky" varnished gas into, and the truck damn near stopped running lol. It had a full tank of fresh gas before the old stuff was added too.

kevcol74 · April 21st, 2009, 09:00 PM

Smoke out the dipstick can be a sign of blow by, or just the fact it has high oil pressure. Its been sitting for a long time, as mentioned, a good drive may help it out.

Cool_Steve · April 21st, 2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keegz

Clean any debris off the actual motor itself so you can get a better look at everything. When I got my truck last year the motor smoked really badly. Turned out there was just some oil leaking out from a valve cover gasket.

Zero oil pressure is bad. High oil pressure... just means youre getting more oil to the top of the motor... probably a bad sender unit.

Remove the air filter and check all the plugs and wires. If if hasn't run in 2 years the bad gas wont help it idle smoothly. My friend had a truck that he dumped 5 gallons of "chunky" varnished gas into, and the truck damn near stopped running lol. It had a full tank of fresh gas before the old stuff was added too.

I'm surprised I actually had spark, because these motors use coil packs and when sitting they can corrode. Also surprised the fuel pump wasn't seized. I thought that perhaps the higher oil pressure was causing it not to idle. When I checked the oil right after it conked, the oil was like all the way up the stick. After i let it sit it showed about half way from full. I know the gas is bad (came with just over half a tank), but this bitch wont idle at all. You need to keep your foot lighty on the gas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevcol74

Smoke out the dipstick can be a sign of blow by, or just the fact it has high oil pressure. Its been sitting for a long time, as mentioned, a good drive may help it out.

blow by, which means this motor could be f'ed. Hey, maybe you should check this ride out when you come to look at my 929 floor!

ps I sent you an e-mail.

Keegz · April 21st, 2009, 09:09 PM

Ever think about the 'ol EGR valve

. Those things dont take too well to sitting.

Cool_Steve · April 21st, 2009, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keegz

Ever think about the 'ol EGR valve

. Those things dont take too well to sitting.

Guess I'm gonna have to do some research on these motors now and get to know them a bit better. I wouldn't know where that is on that car.

Doesn't seem to leak anything. It has oil, ps fuild, coolant, tranny fuild, etc. Also, it may have been sitting for even longer than two years. It could be three...maybe even four.

-Jayzer- · April 22nd, 2009, 10:16 AM

1993 Buick Regal Custom

Defiantly one of the ugliest cars ever made..

(looked kinda hot in the early 80's thou)

1982. This car looks really nice thou.. prolly not your style. (although it is super clean) lol

April 21st, 2009, 08:36 PM	#1
Cool_Steve Members Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kitchener, Ontario Posts: 1,881	I wanna buy this beater, but... I think the motor is toast. I've been offered a 1993 Buick Regal Custom (base model), 3800 series motor (the good oldschool V6) with 332,000kms. Its been sitting for at least two years in the bodyshop compound at my work. $75, farm car, etc. Was a daily driver up until it was parked. After **king around trying to get a damn battery connection with the booster, I finally got it started (with throttle). BUT, it will not idle without holding throttle, even after running for 15-20 seconds. It let out a HUGE cloud of white smoke when started (and still while it ran but not as much), and the oil pressure is sky **king high (has full instermentation). And the motor started to smoke (lots of tree debris on it) and when I checked the dipstick (there is oil) there was smoke coming out of the dipstick hole. I could smell burnt oil. So, toast? It wont idle without gas at all, its got high oil pressure, and something inside the motor is smoking. Also has no gas cap. If this car is done I don't care, I have another Regal I may get with alot less k. __________________ Stephen ~ 1994 Mazda Protegé SE & 1990 Mazda 929 S. All stock, low k's, finely detailed. March - June 2008: 1992 Toyota Corolla LE. Stock, high k's, finely rusted. Status: died at Davesfarm September 2009, scrapped due to damage and stupid Lucan township. August - October 2008: 1990 Toyota Corolla SE. Stock, really high k's, finely rear-ended. Status: lives at Davesfarm. (still alive in 2013!) April - May 2009: 1994 Buick Regal Custom. Stock, really really high k's, finely running after sitting 3 years. Status: died at Davesfarm September 2009, spun a bearing. May - September 2009: 1991 Mazda 323 LX (Sold) April '10 - July '11: 1983 Pontiac Parisienne (Sold) November '10 - 1994 Mazda 323 DX, the one that got away... Last edited by Cool_Steve; April 21st, 2009 at 08:38 PM.

April 21st, 2009, 08:40 PM	#2
Keegz Members Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stratford, ON Posts: 1,373	Nah dude she prolly just needs a good run. Give it some fresh oil and check the plugs and wires. Maybe seafoam too. __________________ *Keegz*

April 21st, 2009, 09:00 PM	#6
kevcol74 Members Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Kitchener Posts: 1,304	Smoke out the dipstick can be a sign of blow by, or just the fact it has high oil pressure. Its been sitting for a long time, as mentioned, a good drive may help it out. __________________ 2006 Escape XLT (Blazing Copper) 2003 Windstar Sport 2003 Protege ES GT (Sold) 2003 Protege5 ES GT (Sold) 2002 Protege5 (Sold) 2002 Protege ES (Sold) 2004 Mazda3 Sport GT (Sold) "For once I wish someone would call me 'Sir', without adding 'your making a scene!' " ~ Homer J. Simpson

April 22nd, 2009, 10:16 AM	#10
-Jayzer- Members Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: P.Town Posts: 408	1993 Buick Regal Custom Defiantly one of the ugliest cars ever made.. (looked kinda hot in the early 80's thou) 1982. This car looks really nice thou.. prolly not your style. (although it is super clean) lol __________________ :: -JAYZER- aka JEFF : 2001 Silver ES-GT : EASTSiDE :: Last edited by -Jayzer-; April 22nd, 2009 at 11:31 AM.

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April 21st, 2009, 08:46 PM	#3
00bluees Members Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Barrie Posts: 3,200	why? you have two beaters that as far as i'm concerned you don't even beat on. after watching the davefarm videos i concluded you drove far too slow and listened to some creepy pedophile looking dude telling you what to do. i guess my farmside definition of a beater is different. its called get your hands on a car for free or at least less than $100, make it run, rip around in a field, build jumps, hit jumps, crash into tractor, drive tractor on top of car THEN switch drivers and do it all again. mind you doing it our way only results in a beater car for about 2 hours if you are lucky. but damn son, you have good memories.

April 21st, 2009, 08:56 PM	#5
Keegz Members Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stratford, ON Posts: 1,373	Clean any debris off the actual motor itself so you can get a better look at everything. When I got my truck last year the motor smoked really badly. Turned out there was just some oil leaking out from a valve cover gasket. Zero oil pressure is bad. High oil pressure... just means youre getting more oil to the top of the motor... probably a bad sender unit. Remove the air filter and check all the plugs and wires. If if hasn't run in 2 years the bad gas wont help it idle smoothly. My friend had a truck that he dumped 5 gallons of "chunky" varnished gas into, and the truck damn near stopped running lol. It had a full tank of fresh gas before the old stuff was added too.

April 21st, 2009, 09:09 PM	#8
Keegz Members Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Stratford, ON Posts: 1,373	Ever think about the 'ol EGR valve . Those things dont take too well to sitting.