Speedracr79's Build Thread

[speedracr79]

Well everyone else has a build thread so why not, i roll a 99 LX Protege that began its life as a red head i bought it in 01' but it wasent till last year that really started to mod it..i had the basics done intake and exhaust but that was it so here we go...

Im pretty much stock like i said minor mods and just pileing up parts now so when i finally get everything it goes on all at once but heres how it looked...and a couple pics up to date...

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/3EEECEC4-76AD-4EFB-867E-786C2EB7F367_1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Exterior/no251-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Exterior/2010-10-09_13-11-41_651.jpg

Heres whats been done up to date

Tokico HP Suspension Struts and Springs and HKPRO5 End links
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/mailgooglecom.jpg
17" ACE Rims
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/b9742a9d.jpg
MX-6 Rear Strut Bar, Infinity 3way 6X9's
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/lips323.jpg
OBX Racing Pedal Covers
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Interior/2011-01-08_20-47-05_730.jpg
EDM Taillights & 311 Sticker
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Exterior/lips338.jpg
Injen CAI, Mazdaspeed Oil Cap, NGK Wires, & Vibrant Strut Bar
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Engine/2010-11-03_16-35-00_686.jpg
Heres a new engine pic with the Polished Valve Cover,Polished CAI, GT Spec Strut Bar, OBX Headers, Mishimoto Alum Radiator, OBX Hoses
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Engine/041.jpg
APEXI Exhaust
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/2172.jpg
DDM Tuning 35W 6K HID Kit
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Exterior/096-1.jpg
TWM Short Shifter & Custom Carbon Fiber Shift Boot Vision Weighted Shift Knob
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/050-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Interior/053.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2011-05-20_17-32-55_339.jpg

[speedracr79]

Heres my list im pretty sure im missing a few things but heres off the top of my head thats been installed
Mod list:

Engine and Drivetrain:
Injen CAI
Injen Hydro Shield
Injen Filter Shield
Mishimoto Aluminum Radiator
OBX Radiator Hoses
Breather Filter
Polished Valve Cover
OBX 4:1 Headers
NGK Spark Plug Wires
Mazdaspeed Oil Cap
Deleted Cat
Deleted Resonator
Apexi Exhaust w/2.5"piping
Kartboy Shifter Bushings

Brakes and Suspension:
Wagner Rotors
Wagner Drums
Wagner Pads
Wagner Shoes
GT Spec Front Strut Bar
GT Spec Trunk Cage
Corksport Rear Strut Bar
Racing Beat Front Sway Bar
Racing Beat Rear Sway Bar W/ Clunk Fix
Tokico HP Suspension Kit (Struts and Springs)
HKPRO5 Adj Endlinks

Exterior and Interior:
DDM Tuning 35W HID Kit 6K
Blacked Housed Headlights
Black Oem Grill
EDM Taillights
Gold 17" Ace Rims
Kuhmo Ecsta 215/45/17
OBX Pedals
MSP Center Console
Dave B Rings
P5 Steering Wheel
Dual Guage Pillar
Prosport Coolant Temp. Guage
Prosport Oil Pressure Guage
Pioneer Detach. Face CD Player
Infinity 6.5" 2way Speakers Front
Infinity 6X9" 2way Speakers Rear
Carbon Fiber Shift Boot
TWM Short Shifter
Weighted shift Knob
THE BEST MOD: 311 Sticker

Sitting In My Back Room Waiting To Be Installed:
03.5 Lip Kit
DG Lip
VIS CF OEM Style Hood
VIS CF Trunk
Isport CF Roof Spoiler
Isport CF Window Deflectors
MP3 Front Bumper
HID Kit w/P5 Fogs
Rims
SS Break Lines
Familia Emblem
Roof Rack
Hide Away License Plate
JDM 1.5L Intake and Exhaust Cams
SR Motorsports Adj. Cam Gears
F1 Racing 10lb Lightweight Flywheel
Weapon R Coolant Catch Can
Wepon R Oil Catch Can
AWR Complete Motor Mount Set
Hella Supertones
Wedge Racing Seat Brackets
Indiglo Guage Overlays
Innovate Wideband
MSP Door Sills
MSP Door Panels
MSP Sail Tweeter Panels
MSP Center Console
MSP Carpet
Harness Bar
4pt Mazdaspeed Harness
DGM CF Cluster Surround
DGM CF Glovebox cover
DGM CF Cupholder
Eibach Sportline Springs
KMR Lower Tie Bar
KMR V-Brace
Megan Trailing Arms
Street Unit Bushings

Wish List:
Paint Job
CF Armrest
Racing Seat
BC Coilovers
Corksport Exhaust

[speedracr79]

reserved...

[speedracr79]

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[speedracr79]

reserved....

[jmoua]

wow...looking good man and i'm putting that ADP in to good use. why did you change colours?

[speedracr79]

Thanks man its a work in progress. Glad that adp went to good use.

As for the color change I didn't care for the red.

Im actually gonna paint it again just not sure on the color.

[Brian MP5T]

What do you think about the RAD?

I have a friend who is interested in getting one..

PS Great Progress from Red to Awesome.

[Triniswagg]

Wow nice ride man....love the look of the black trunk

[speedracr79]

What do you think about the RAD?

I have a friend who is interested in getting one..

PS Great Progress from Red to Awesome.

Wow nice ride man....love the look of the black trunk


Thanks for the kind words guys its been a work in progress and im actually gonna paint it again.

@ Brian MP5T for the radiator i have no problems, and i love the look. If your friend has the FS motor then its all good. I have the ZM so it wasent a perfect fit i had to shorten the lower hose a bit, also had to turn my stock fans into slim fans they wont fit w/o digging into the fins and messing up the radiator.

@ Triniswagg I really love the look of the hood/trunk combo in black. In every video game i play that you can paint the car i always paint the hood and trunk black. Glad someone else likes the look also. Theres quite a few people who dont care for the look but oh well its my car.

I was fortunate enough to get my hands on a very very rare VIS CF Hood for the 99-00 now im on the search for the CF Trunk so now they wont just be black theyll be cf black which IMO is alot better.

[speedracr79]

Well not much of an update but heres whats been done so far
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/interier095.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/interier083.jpg

[jmoua]

looking good!! so what colour are you going to paint it now?

[Triniswagg]

Car looks awsome

[speedracr79]

looking good!! so what colour are you going to paint it now?

I havent decided yet im still thinking about it my wife was thinking of a bronze color with black rims but IDK. But what ever color i do paint i want it to match the rims. Ive been looking at rims and finally narrowed it down to the Rota GRID's i like the green color but it really depends on the color i paint the car so im still playing around with some options. I may decide to stay with the white or go black or maybe back to red IDK im torn

Car looks awsome

Thanks man i dont frequent this forum much but once i get my build under way for those who want to check it out im gonna update as i do things with plenty of pics. If you like it now wait till im done itll be SEXY IMO that is....

[speedracr79]

Well theres a few other items ive got recently to add to the stock pile of parts....

This is probably my favorite mod is the CF Hood because ive searched for a few years trying to find one for my car and NOTHING. Ive seen plenty for the 2001 & up but not the 99-00 but then luck came my way and well here it is its a VIS Racing CF Hood. Apparently its a rare thing not sure how many were made or even if they were put into production. But in all my research ive never seen another one so for all i know this may be the only one. I tried contacting VIS to see how many were made but no response.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/012-1.jpg

[speedracr79]

Today i just bought a CF Trunk should be getting it next week HELL YEAH now my CF Hood has a friend

[iamthewheelman]

Subbin, I'm really liking were this is going, nice car man

[speedracr79]

thanks man its been a work in progress for a long time now and finally its near the end...

once i get the final pieces i need ill keep everyone posted on the progress and have plenty of pics

[Triniswagg]

Wow man nice find with the hood...iv been lookin for one also but have had no luck

[speedracr79]

I lucked out a local buddy found it and re cleared it he had it on his protege for a bit and then he sold it to me.

[speedracr79]

well heres the newest piece to add to my Carbon Fiber Collection...
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/2011-08-06_11-30-21_824.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/2011-08-05_22-49-07_524.jpg
it needs a little work gotta be recleared but its no biggie

[speedracr79]

just got this new addition to the parts collection...Injen Filter Shield and Hydroshield mine gets dirty pretty quick so this will help keep it clean longer and help with the water
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/2012-01-14_09-48-44_238.jpg

[vtec-this]

holy ***k i want a CF trunk that looks awsome how much lighter is it than a stock trunk?

[speedracr79]

I didnt weigh them but on VIS website states the CF trunk is 13lbs and it weighs about 50% less than the OEM so im assuming its about 25-30lbs for oem.

[speedracr79]

Ok well its been a while since ive updated this thread but heres a run down of new parts and progress ive made thus far.

Parts list ive picked up a few since i was last here so here it goes...
SR Motorsports Adj Cam Gears
SR Motorsports Lightweight Pulley Set
F1 Racing 10lb Lightweight Flywheel
GT Spec Trunk Cage
Corksport Rear Strut Bar
Corksport SS Brake Lines
Corksport SS Clutch Line
Clunk Fix
Fiberglass grill
DGM CF Interior Pieces (Speedo Cluster, 1pc Cupholder, and the Glovebox Cover)
Wedge Racing Seat Brackets
03.5 MSP Lip Kit (Front, Rear, and Side Skirts)
MSP Door Panels
MSP Door Sills X2
MSP Tweeter Panels
MSP Center Console
Kenwood 10" Sub
Kenwood Amp
DG Lip
Innovate Wideband
16" Enkei Rims (dont know what kind)
Slim Fans
P5 Fog lights w/ HID Kit X2
4pt Mazdaspeed Harnesses
Harness Bar
Megan Trailing Arms
Corksport SS Brake Lines
Corksport SS Clutch Line
CF Trunk Trim Piece
Weapon R Coolant Catch Can
Weapon R oil Catch Can
Familia Emblem


Im sure theres a few more thats all i can remember off hand the build was put off for a while but is now back on....

[speedracr79]

Heres a few pics from before the the motor came out
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Engine/031.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Engine/032.jpg
Heres after we pulled it out
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Engine/033-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Engine/034-1.jpg
Heres the new motor
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Engine/044-2.jpg
Heres some of the mess i made in the back room and storage for a while till its all complete
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/045-2.jpg

[speedracr79]

That was back in March of last year not much was done since. This was the day I brought her home to her new home with a 2 car garage plenty of work space.
well heres whats been done i just got the roof rack in the mail today
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Exterior/019.jpg
I started stripping off the front didnt get much done but its a start
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Exterior/006.jpg

[speedracr79]

Test fiting my new fans just gotta figure out how im gonna mount them.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/2012-01-06_16-36-32_240.jpg

[speedracr79]

This was done a few weeks ago over the weekend definitly a inprovement. Thanks to the help of good friend i was able to get more done.

ill strart off with a few parts i got in the mail. I got my Street Unit sway bar bushing set, hella horns

on to what was done. i put together my clunk fix kit. didnt get to install it yet
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/Day1Protegebuild043.jpg

also removed my MX6 rear strut bar gonna sell it and install my new to me corksport bar

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/Day1Protegebuild045.jpg


The main thing was moving the harnesses and parts in the bay, degreasing and painting it black..

BEFORE CLEANING
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Engine%20Build%20Pics/Day1Protegebuild008.jpg

AFTER CLEANING
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Engine%20Build%20Pics/Day1Protegebuild027.jpg

PAINTED
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Engine%20Build%20Pics/Day1Protegebuild035.jpg

[speedracr79]

Now that i got the bay done a buddy and I are gonna do a minor wire tuck to clean up the clutter. ill post pics when im done.

Heres whats been done last week IIRC Installed my Clunk Fix and the Corksport Rear Strut Bar

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/Suspension%20Build%20Pics/2012-01-17_20-26-10_331.jpg

Here it is installed crappy pics ill take some better ones tonight after work
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/Suspension%20Build%20Pics/Clunkfix-strutbar035.jpg

And heres the Strut bar
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/Suspension%20Build%20Pics/Clunkfix-strutbar020.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/Suspension%20Build%20Pics/Clunkfix-strutbar019.jpg

[speedracr79]

Finally decided to put my GT Spec trunk cage together looks good IMO gonna install it tonight.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/Suspension%20Build%20Pics/2012-01-19_20-10-58_774-1.jpg

Installed my trunk cage today man it looks good and is real sturdy.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/Suspension%20Build%20Pics/trunkcage011.jpg

[speedracr79]

Heres the pics of what i did over the weekend cleaned the trunk real good, cut my trunk panels, and the carpet to work with the trunk cage.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/001.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/Suspension%20Build%20Pics/009.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/Suspension%20Build%20Pics/004.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/Suspension%20Build%20Pics/006.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/Suspension%20Build%20Pics/008.jpg

[speedracr79]

So now your up to date on my progress today im going to remove my struts and springs i think i have a buyer for them so i gotta get a quote.

Also im going to remove all my interior seats, pillars, carpet all that good stuff since im getting the carpet from the MSP so i can clean the cab and also run the wires under the carpet for my sub and amp.

Hopefully this weekend if time permits then im going to sand the body, remove the doors, and paint the jambs so well see how that goes.

[991.8l]

Lots of nice work done on the car. Good work.

[speedracr79]

Thanks hopefully if all works out well the motor should be in after income tax so ill be able to enjoy all of the work im putting into it. I really want to take my time and get it done right. Also would like to sandblast all the parts in the bay to clean them up like the block, and alternator parts like that to give the bay a real clean look.

[ChopstickHero]

trunk bracing looks sick

[speedracr79]

trunk bracing looks sick
Thanks...

heres a few shots of the interior CF stuff whats been done so far
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Interior/134.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Interior/interier095.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Interior/interier083.jpg

[CulRidr]

A trunk cage and a strut bar on a car with a solid parcel shelf? A little overkill if you ask me...
Also, adjustable came gears but stock cams? Is there a plan there?

[speedracr79]

A trunk cage and a strut bar on a car with a solid parcel shelf? A little overkill if you ask me...
Also, adjustable came gears but stock cams? Is there a plan there?

Well no one did ask....j/k

but yeah i know its a little over board but why the hell not i want all the help i can get im going to autocross it and take it in the hill country for some sprinted cruises in its twisty hills, so ill take it anywhere i can get it.

as for the cam gears its in the second post i got some JDM cams

[CulRidr]

Ah, I was looking at #25.

[speedracr79]

Ah, I was looking at #25.

Ah i see that list was the parts i got since the last gime o was on here the cams i bought prior.

[speedracr79]

Well decided to put my harness bar in see what modifications needed to be done and well there wasent any. This was just a test fitting
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/Pillar-harnessbar002.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/001-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/002-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/Pillar-harnessbar008.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/Pillar-harnessbar016.jpg

[speedracr79]

Just got these
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/001203.jpg

[CulRidr]

What brand actually makes those? You want to be careful when it comes to safety gear...

[midnitehour]

that harness bar looks soo unsafe for two reasons.

1) if you have any rear passengers they should wear helmets going forward always
2) the tabs where the rods to the floor mount are in the wrong place as it places a sheer load on the welds when stressed rather than tension. sheer = weakest point of a weld.

I see pics of kids on the dash, please keep point 1 in mind if they ride in this car.

also if you choose to use this bar, i'd use it as a brace for your belts and tie the belts into the rear parcel or the floor under the rear seats and not directly onto the bar.

[midnitehour]

Oh wow. i didn't even catch that the bar bolts to the adjustable part of the seatbelt .

if you hit something head on, you're eating the steering wheel

[CulRidr]

that harness bar looks soo unsafe for two reasons.

1) if you have any rear passengers they should wear helmets going forward always
2) the tabs where the rods to the floor mount are in the wrong place as it places a sheer load on the welds when stressed rather than tension. sheer = weakest point of a weld.

I see pics of kids on the dash, please keep point 1 in mind if they ride in this car.

also if you choose to use this bar, i'd use it as a brace for your belts and tie the belts into the rear parcel or the floor under the rear seats and not directly onto the bar.
This. Those are 4 point belts (I'm wondering why the hole in the anchors that go to the floor mounts look so weird?). They should only be installed to approved mounts that are meant to withstand the force of an accident. See here (http://www.schrothracing.com/store/tuning/rallye/rallye-4) for proper installation instructions, keeping in mind you may need to replace the bolts to get enough thread engagement.

Also, are those belts even DOT approved? I run the rally3 ones for autocross and they are great but I would never run them on the street seeing as how restrictive they are in terms of movement (and prevent you from ducking in the advent of a rollover). Speaking of accidents, your neck will take all of the brute force since there is no give, also making your airbag useless.

If you just want a tighter seat feel, get a good seat with a GC-lock (http://www.cg-lock.com/index.html).

[Mike_Moss]

Please don't use this in anything but an autocross. (Even then, I wouldn't do it - there are better options like the CG Lock.)

Not suitable for street use, not suitable for race use, not suitable AT ALL!

[Mike_Moss]

Believe Etienne, he's a Ninja!

[CulRidr]

Please don't use this in anything but an autocross. (Even then, I wouldn't do it - there are better options like the CG Lock.)

Not suitable for street use, not suitable for race use, not suitable AT ALL!
5 or 6 point FIA approved right?

[speedracr79]

Thanks for the input the harnesses are just for show im getting 5pt cam locks for other stuff. I do have kids but they are no where near the bar i had them in the back already. As for the bar like i mentioned in the post it was just a test fitting.

[dead_cactus]

Thanks for the input the harnesses are just for show im getting 5pt cam locks for other stuff. I do have kids but they are no where near the bar i had them in the back already. As for the bar like i mentioned in the post it was just a test fitting.

They may not be close now but wait until you brake suddenly and they all get a harness bar to the face. Poor kids :(

[midnitehour]

The harnesses are one thing, but the fact that they're mounted to a mouse trap, makes them completely useless.

Even if your kids are strapped in the back, god forbid if you have a head on collision, the seat belt stretch. This slowly brings the body to a stop, and the soft backside of the front seats help.

Take the bar off it's rice that ruins an otherwise nice protege.

[00bluees]

agreed, lose all of it and use your factory belts. if you want race car harness belts, get a race car. don't play with fire, especially with kids. why risk getting them hurt because you want to be "cool".

[speedracr79]

Well the bar is staying and i dont see how its rice and will be useless mounted where it is. I guess Sparco is rice for their bars,as for the mounting the factory belts are mounted in the exact same spot as the stock belts.
heres a pic of sparcos bar mounted in the exact same spot as mine so i guess they got it wrong too.
http://www.sparcousa.com/harness_bars.asp
http://www.sparcousa.com/pharness_bars.asp?id=604

Who said i wanted to be "cool" I know i never did. As for my kids are conscerned i appreciate all the worrying for them but they will be just fine. When i said i had them in the back already, my cars on jackstands in my garage and has been for about a year. i had them in the back and had them sit foward and see if they are in range of the bar and they are not.

I know people who have run harness bars and harnesses with kids and people in the back and not one has had their head smashed into the bar, like i said before im not gonna have any adults in the back anyways, so thats enough about that.

So if i want harnesses i have to get a race car how do you figure. So if people want fast cars they should get super cars and not make their faster?

For those who dont agree with my choices, or have a problem with the parts i install, thats perfectly fine, you dont have to. But this is my build and i will build it the way i want. When you buy my parts for my build, or fund it in any way then you can have a say in how its modded.

For those who unsubscribe for my choices i understand its your choice.

Again i appreciate all the worry but the bars gonna stay, my kids are gonna be fine and if we could get back on topic id appreciate it.

[vtec-this]

if you ever read d-sport or scc you see these bars all the time so your not the only one running this. no idea if it will actually improve much but def looks cool if you can make it work safely.

i *almost* made one as I always thought they looked cool but could not justify having harness' in my DD. I hate anyone who asks to ride in the back anyways so them getting new teeth is cool with me. the biggest drawback would be not being able to bone a chick on the front seat if the bar does not let the seat recline.

[midnitehour]

by posting your build on the internet, you've simultaneously asked for people to comment about it. that's basically the idea behind a forum.

but on topic to the bar, sparco is a company in the business to make money. take that for what it's worth.
Also for what it's worth sparco doesn't list a bar for the protege so you posting links is moot.
to prove that here's a link to a person with no teeth. same concept
http://haquelebac.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/toothless-old-man-2.jpg?w=300&h=323&h=323 moot.


the reason for my critique is because of where the harness bar bolts on to.

That point is super strong no doubt. the stock belt attaches there.
However in a crash when your body applies force to that point via the belts, the belts pull that point downwards.

In a severe crash the sliding mechanism will fail, causing the mount to bottom out, which is ok as it can't go anywhere past that.
If you figure from the top point to the bottom is 6 inches. which translates to less than 3in of forward movement. (even less so since it's at an angle to your body's movement)

the way you have your bar mounted has the sliding mechanism at the very bottom.

All good and great right? I just said it won't go anywhere else from there right?

no.

in a crash your body will apply tension on the belts.
the tension from your belts will pull the bar forward which can't go forward.
the harness bar, the ties to the floor, and the chasis create a triangle.
If the sliding mech fails the harness bar will move up. simple geometry. as the harness bar moves up, the harness goes slack.

now, looking at your pictures, the angles in the said triangle are very small where the bar meets the chasis, as those get closer to 0 (bar and supports are perpendicular to the floor) the harness bar is completely ineffective.
this is where my "trap" comments come in.

If you insist on this bar. idealy, you want as much angle between the bar and the support rod. the best would be if the support rod is 45* to the floor.
http://www.jamessimpson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/harnessbar-300x225.jpg

Here you see if the bar moves up, even if the point where the bpillar is warped due to a roll, the simple angles will not allow the bar to move forward by much.

this to me is more ideal, as the supports also go into tension in a collision.
http://www.944s2.com/images/BKbar.jpg

how the belt should be mounted
http://www.jamessimpson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/picture1dh2-300x239.png

[speedracr79]

I know its the internet and people are gonna comment and talk smack or give props, im fine either way, but from what ive seen from this forum you guys seem to be pretty cool here so i dont have to worry about the smack talking here.

Well like i said i have no problem with comments and critiques at all, they are welcome especially if they are like this one with some helpful info not just remove it or people will smash their faces in it.

As for the pic of sparco i posted it for the mounting points as a referrence so the point was not moot. I never said there was one for a protege so i dont see what that has to do with the pic being valid or not as a referrence. Thanks for the funny pic though.

As for the bar i will take your info into advisement and i will make a final decision thanks for the input

[Mike_Moss]

Unless you are installing harnesses for the rear passengers, they will move in the event of a collision.

[speedracr79]

This was at my door when i got home my new to me lip
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-03_07-44-39_105-1.jpg

[speedracr79]

Didnt do anything today but i took my msp lip off and put on my DG lip still needs to get back into its shape but oddly enough we havent had enough heat here for it to mold back so i put it on to help it alittle but the top middle still needs to go down a bit.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/0204121636.jpg

[00bluees]

got rid of an 03.5 lip?? you crazy man, i've been dying to get my hands on an affordable one, if i ever got one it wouldn't go anywhere. maybe once i fix up my DG lip properly i can trade another crazy person for their MSP lip. haha.

[speedracr79]

Who said i got rid of my lip that shit aint going anywhere. Im keeping both so when i get bored of one i can swap the other on.

[speedracr79]

Newest arrival just got it this morning. Now all i need are seats to put on them
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-06_09-47-56_976.jpg

[00bluees]

Who said i got rid of my lip that shit aint going anywhere. Im keeping both so when i get bored of one i can swap the other on.

ok then, so you aren't insane. :p

[speedracr79]

Oh no im not it took me quite some time to find one of those i aint letting it go very easy if the price is right i might but i doubt anyone will pay that much

[speedracr79]

Not much of a update but i swapped my Tokico springs for my Eibach springs and cleaned my struts and springs so now they look as good as new. If anyone is looking for lowering springs check out my FS thread in my sig im selling my tokico springs

BEFORE
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-06_13-04-43_159-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-06_13-13-03_482-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-07_16-24-21_196.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-06_15-37-13_7.jpg

AFTER
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-07_20-28-29_219.jpg

[speedracr79]

Well i was bored so i snapped a few pics of my other CF goodies these were just test fittings of course. They arent gonna go on till the car is done
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-04_18-24-05_347-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-04_18-22-18_863-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-04_18-23-37_175-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-04_18-13-10_830-1.jpg

[vtec-this]

is the rear window spoiler custom or from a company? looks nice.

[speedracr79]

I bought it from a member on another forum he use to make them not sure if he still does but heres the link
http://www.isportcomposites.com/

[speedracr79]

Well heres the newest part to add to my parts collection Infinity tweeters
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-02-12_13-32-35_413.jpg

[speedracr79]

Well i bought some Rota Grids yesterday and just bought some GT Spec trailing arms today

Well we didnt get to the wire tuck today but we have a plan of attack for tomorrow we spent most of our time trying to figure out how to remove the dash but we finally got it out. Im gonna paint it sometime next week. but heres a few pics of todays progress. Also put my struts back in and it dropped a little more just gotta wait for them to settle

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/DashRemoval027.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/Suspension%20Build%20Pics/DashRemoval029.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/DashRemoval030.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/DashRemoval050.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/DashRemoval033.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/DashRemoval034.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/DashRemoval040.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/DashRemoval043.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/DashRemoval042.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Interior%20Build%20Pics/DashRemoval041.jpg

While doing all that we spent a little time to install my Infinity tweeters. Turned out I didnt have to modify the sail panels at all I only had to remove the guard on the tweeters and they fit right in just had to line them up and force them in the clips but they locked in and are good.

[Brian MP5T]

Nice...

I am in the process of taking all that shit out of mine too..

I want to reinstall from scratch and the best way to get access to it, is to remove the dash..

[speedracr79]

Nice...

I am in the process of taking all that shit out of mine too..

I want to reinstall from scratch and the best way to get access to it, is to remove the dash..

Thanks man. Yeah i agree it is the best way plus im gonna swap out my heater core and maybe some other components under the dash while i have it out this way i wont have to do it again any time soon if something goes out. But you have gone a few levels above me and created a beautiful piece of machinary. Really wish i could get my car to your level but unfortunatly most of those parts arent made for my car and well no real big budget dosent help either.

But my car will look great non the less in its own right im gonna do it right this time and go as all out as i can while still looking subtle and and clean. No out rageous color scheme or flashy interior. But youll see when im done.

[speedracr79]

Well got my rims last week heres a quick pic
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/2012-03-03_14-35-30_982.jpg

Also sold my valve cover today so i started polishing another its no where near done but heres what ive got so far
BEFORE
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/2012-03-04_16-05-50_915.jpg

AFTER
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/2012-03-04_17-34-16_511.jpg

Heres a pic of the semi finished product
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-03-07_07-51-49_375-1-1.jpg

Didnt like the mazda alone so i sat here this morning and hand sanded the dohc 16-valve very carfully
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/2012-03-07_09-01-35_764.jpg

And heres the almost finished product. Its not perfect and has its imperfections but you have to look for them, and its not to bad for my first time, if i do say so my self. Im gonna clear it tonight then itll be done.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/2012-03-07_09-29-56_1.jpg

[vtec-this]

those rims look so nice those are exactly what I like to see on a protege :)

nice valve cover work too.

[speedracr79]

those rims look so nice those are exactly what I like to see on a protege :)

nice valve cover work too.

Thanks but i didnt like the way the vc came out so i stripped it back down and im gonna do it again this weekend.

[Jamaican_roach]

nice project

[Jamaican_roach]

hey you should get the 1.5 vvt head
thats what i had in my car first they came in the Japanese Familia

[speedracr79]

nice project

hey you should get the 1.5 vvt head
thats what i had in my car first they came in the Japanese Familia

Thanks man and i thought about getting the 1.5 head i got some buddies in Trinidad who were talking about getting me one so how did it feel any noticeable power?

Did you have to do anything to make it fit?

[Jamaican_roach]

the car came with it
i have drive in cars without
the car was full of torque especially under load i was gonna boost it but back then there wasnt much parts for it
it bolts on directly to the non vvt head its like the bp the cam and the solenoid makes the difference

[speedracr79]

well i might just get me a 1.5 head then after all thanks man

[speedracr79]

Been a while since ive been back here but heres the latest update..

Got some new parts in some D1 extend lugs and AAC bumper sag brackets
im getting some ES calipers, KVR drilled rotors, and CF pads along with the Celica GT MAF.

Painted my VC a while back but didnt like the way it came out so i ended up stripping it and getting a sand blaster and a powder coater, well ive been having some fun since. So i re did my VC but this time powder coated it along with my Oil and Coolant cans blasted the plates under the VC also man it makes a big difference.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/THE%20PROTEGE/Parts/011-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-04-01_14-52-58_762.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-04-01_14-23-11_909.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-04-02_08-23-11_823.jpg

The plates under the VC
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-04-01_17-05-10_777-1.jpg

And the Valve Cover...im contemplating on clearing it to help protect it alittle more.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-04-01_14-53-17_665-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-04-01_16-42-58_213-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/imagejpeg952.jpg

[speedracr79]

Got a little blasting done today sand blasted my strut bar brackets, intake manifold, and my starter. I have to go over them again i missed a few spots but they look alot better than before IMO. Hopefully i can get my alternator and rims done this weekend well see how it goes.

a little before and after pics of the mani
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Engine%20Build%20Pics/2012-04-06_15-48-48_621.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Engine%20Build%20Pics/2012-04-06_17-35-27_37.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Engine%20Build%20Pics/2012-04-06_17-35-36_839.jpg

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Engine%20Build%20Pics/2012-04-06_17-36-59_823.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Engine%20Build%20Pics/2012-04-06_17-35-44_457.jpg

[speedracr79]

Got a little bored earlier so went to do a little work big difference looks like new. gonna coat them this weekend what you think red or black im leaning more toward black though
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-04-12_19-56-51_769.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-04-12_19-57-24_895.jpg

[CulRidr]

Definitely black

[speedracr79]

Yeah i think so too.

[speedracr79]

Finally went and picked up my sub and amp cant wait to have a little bump in the trunk again nothing serious just a 10" sub and amp with enough power to push it.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-04-19_20-06-21_414.jpg

[speedracr79]

Got these in the mail today

Bronzoil and 3rd link Bushings
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/2012-04-25_13-56-43_191.jpg

[speedracr79]

Heres a update of what i got done today and a few pics of the work to get here with the help of a friend we got it on and next weekend were gonna finish it

we started by just cutting the side but that didnt work
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/FrontBumperMod007.jpg

so we cut them in half me hard at work my dremel died so we used my drill but that didnt get us far then we used a grinder same thing then well when all esle fails use the good ole hand saw
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/FrontBumperMod008.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/FrontBumperMod010.jpg

ended up with this
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/FrontBumperMod011.jpg
and this
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/FrontBumperMod009.jpg



Its not finished its a work in progress but its progress nonetheless so heres pics with the MSP lip
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/FrontBumperMod019.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/FrontBumperMod020.jpg

Heres some with the DG lip
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/FrontBumperMod022.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/FrontBumperMod023.jpg

And without
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/FrontBumperMod016.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/Project%203rd%20Gen/Exterior%20Build%20Pics/FrontBumperMod025.jpg

also got my GT Spec Trailing arms in today
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/FrontBumperMod028.jpg

and finally i got my bday gift from my brother a little early some may know what it is others wont
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/speedracr79/FrontBumperMod002.jpg