HOW-TO: Fog's on with parking lights & disable DRL

[Bumble G]

After carefully reverse engineering, testing, and verifying. I figured out a way to disable the DRL’s and to have the fog lights on without the headlights.

If you don’t want to read a long winded explanation of how and why I did the mod skip to the procedure.

For the fog lights to work independently from the headlights you need to separate the switch from the DRL module, and supply power to the fog light relay from the parking lights. Why from the parking lights? So you don’t forget that you have them turned on.

There was no real easy way to eliminate the DRL module completely without some major hacking. Also it’s a good thing to have on the car and my way makes it for easy reversal of the mod. Since I’m not eliminating the DRL module I decided to have a switch to just turn the DRL’s off. I’ve heard of people driving around with the e-brake up one notch to turn off the DRL’s. That’s not a good thing, for one you will wear out the rear brake pads prematurely and secondly you have the brake warning light on the dashboard. This light tells you if you have a problem with your braking system. So having it on all the time is not good either. So I looked into the electronics of the DRL module. Basically the e-brake and the low brake fluid warning switches are connected to each other via the DRL module.

[Bumble G]

DISCLAIMER:
1. Do this mod at your own risk.
2. I am NOT responsible for any damage to you, your car, or your property as a direct or indirect result of anyone attempting this mod.
3. You will be cutting some wires in you car. So if you void the warranty I am NOT responsible.
4. I have a 2002 Protege 5. Other Protege models and or years may varry.

TOOLS/PARTS NEEDED.
1. Flashlight.
2. Flat head screwdriver
3. 10mm socket / socket wrench.
4. Crimp tool.
5. Wire cutter / stripper.
6. Butt connectors – male & female
7. Spade connectors
8. Ring connectors
9. SPST switch. (single pole single throw)


I took some pics as I went along but most came out crappy. I posted them up on Yahoo. HERE (http://new.photos.yahoo.com/silver98sh/album)

Also I have 2 schematics I made but they are in pdf format and I don’t have anywhere to host them except for here.
http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/Bumble%20G/schematic.zip
(right click save as)

EDIT: Diagram explaining the "Connector side" / "Harness side"
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1305/explain2pt9.th.png (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=explain2pt9.png)
another
http://www.toprotege.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6581&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1163681789

[Bumble G]

NOTE: The wire colors are SOLID COLOR/STRIP; if there is one color then there is no stripe.

1. Find the Fog Light relay. Located in the drivers side foot well. Look up.
2. Using the 10mm deep socket unbolt the two bolts holding on the DRL, FOG light and other stuff up there.
3. On the FOG LIGHT RELAY cut RED wire about 2” from connector.
4. Crimp a male butt connector on the connector side, and crimp a female butt connector on the harness side.
5. Take a length of wire about 3’ and crimp a female butt connector on one end.
6. Plug the new wire into the RED wire you just cut with the male connector on it.
7. Label the free end of this wire as FOG LIGHT RELAY.

8. Find the DRL module. Again located in the drivers side foot well. Look up.
9. Unplug the 2 harnesses. You only need to modify the small harness with 7 wires in it.
10. Cut the YELLOW/GREEN wire about 2” from the connector.
11. Crimp a male butt connector on the connector side, and crimp a female butt connector on the harness side.
12. Cut the BLUE/ORANGE wire about 2” from the connector.
13. Crimp a female butt connector on the connector side, and crimp a male butt connector on the harness side.
14. Plug wire YELLOW/GREEN into wire BLUE/ORANGE on the harness side.
15. Take another length of wire about 3’ and crimp a female butt connector on one end.
16. Plug the new wire into wire YELLOW/GREEN on the connector side.
17. Label free end of this wire as DRL OFF.
18. Run both wires up the wire harness and secure with tie wraps.

19. Remove the cover on the side of the dashboard to expose fog light switch.
20. Run the free wires along the harness and into the area of the foglight switch. Use tie wraps to secure.
21. Find a suitable location for the SPST switch. ( I used the empty switch plate)
22. Terminate the free wire labeled DRL OFF to one side of the switch.
23. Terminate another length of wire to the other side of the switch.
24. Label this new wire as GROUND.

25. Unplug the fog light switch harness.
26. Cut RED/WHITE wire about 2” from connector.
27. Crimp a male butt connector on the connector side, and crimp a female butt connector on the harness side. (ignore my picture I put the connectors on the wrong side)
28. Take a length of wire about 1’ and crimp a female butt connector on one end.
29. Label the other end GROUND.
30. Connect the new wire to the connector side. Leave the other end free for now.
31. Splice the wire labeled FOG LIGHT RELAY into the LIGHT GREEN/BLACK wire.

32. Find a good ground location.
33. Take both free wires labeled GROUND and terminate them with a ring lug.
34. Remove the bolt. Put the ring lug over the stud. Fasten the bolt back on.
35. Double check all connections are solid.
36. Plug the harnesses back into the switches.

[Evil Homer P5]

Sweet.

Do i have to do both the DRL and FOG light mod, or can i just do the DRL only??

[mspeedP5]

I did this mod and it works great! Also, the fogs can also be on with the hi-beams.
I just have a couple of suggestions:

Add to TOOLS/PARTS NEEDED
1 only TAP SPLICE (for Step 31)

Make your new lengths of wire for Steps 5, 15 and 23 longer than the 3" suggested. This provides for a different switch location. You can cut the wire once the final length is determined.

Thanks Bumble G!
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http://www.island.net/~mspeed/Dcp_2614%20copy.jpg

[323cip5]

What do you do with the BLUE/ORANGE wire from the DRL module on the connector side,
RED wire from Fog Light Module on the harness side, and the RED/WHITE wire from the Fog Light Switch on the harness side?

[Bumble G]

Leave them unconnected.
Make sure they do not short out to anything.

[MCLi]

wut if i just want to totally disconnect the DRL?

[Johann]

you know, you could always just unplug the harness to the DRL control unit.

[Bumble G]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Johann @ Nov. 10 2004,03:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you know, you could always just unplug the harness to the DRL control unit.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
If you unplug the DRL harness the only lights that will function on the front of the car are the turn signals and the side marker lamps.

I tried that.

[sevsev]

I have a question about this, the butt connectors specifically, aren't butt connectors kinda &quot;transgendered&quot;, lol. What I mean is, I thought they don't have male and females like other connnectors, the only butt connecters I could find were like this

http://www.boatersworld.com/graphics/boatersworld/products/198420192.jpg

Any insight on this is appreciated!

Oh and the tools/parts needed doesn't say anything about needing more wire, but says stuff like &quot;take a XX length of wire, etc.&quot;, so you DO need more wire for this?

[Bumble G]

voila

male and female. the female is the light blue one.
They fit together just like male and female body parts  http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

http://www.radioshack.com/images/ProductCatalog/ProductImage/64/64-3086.jpg

[sevsev]

Ah, ok thanks, aren't those BULLET connectors tho?


And the wire thing?

[TheMAN]

good job! nice to see someone finally getting off their ass and having the balls to *properly* disable DRLs and not do some other stupid ghetto shit

I DON'T recommend using butt connectors for important shit like this though... lights are a safety equipment for you to see and others to see you... I prefer to solder and heat shrink the connections

anyone else who's going to do this ought to post some pics! http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

you mind reposting this on clubprotege for other canadians to see? http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Myk]

I still think grounding the parking brake is way easier!

[TheMAN]

and ghetto

[Bumble G]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (TheMAN @ May 23 2005,4:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">good job! nice to see someone finally getting off their ass and having the balls to *properly* disable DRLs and not do some other stupid ghetto shit

I DON'T recommend using butt connectors for important shit like this though... lights are a safety equipment for you to see and others to see you... I prefer to solder and heat shrink the connections

anyone else who's going to do this ought to post some pics!  http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

you mind reposting this on clubprotege for other canadians to see? http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
thanks, i did that like 2 years ago.

The pictures I took cam eout real bad. I was a newb with my bro's digital camera.

I know soldering would have been beter than the butt/barrle connectors but that's what I had. And I can always undo the mod real easy.

and I just posted it on clubprotege.

[Myk]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (TheMAN @ May 24 2005,7:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and ghetto[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Why is it ghetto? It works.

[Mike_Moss]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Myk @ May 25 2005,12:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (TheMAN @ May 24 2005,7:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and ghetto[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Why is it ghetto? It works.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Wouldn't that make your brake/fluid light come on in the dash?

[Myk]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mike_moss @ May 25 2005,12:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Myk @ May 25 2005,12:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and ghetto<span id='postcolor'>
Why is it ghetto? It works.[/quote]
Wouldn't that make your brake/fluid light come on in the dash?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah I put a switch in line though, so I can turn it off at night, (activate the DRL,) since I have my lights on anyways.

You don't really notice the brake light during the day!

[TheMAN]

adding another switch... yet even more ghetto.... and most importantly, disabling the brake warning light... you'll smack yourself in the head when you *do* need that light when shit happens

[Bumble G]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah I put a switch in line though, so I can turn it off at night, (activate the DRL,) since I have my lights on anyways.

You don't really notice the brake light during the day![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I'm confused....

you just added a switch in line witht the parking brake?

or did you do the mod and add a second switch???

[Mike_Moss]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Myk @ May 25 2005,12:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah I put a switch in line though, so I can turn it off at night, (activate the DRL,) since I have my lights on anyways.

You don't really notice the brake light during the day![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Sorry dawg, but that's why yo' shiz is ghetto. http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[S.S.S.P5]

thanx

[sube]

I know this is a fairly old post, but why in the name of Christ would anyone in his right mind want to disable something that has been proven to make your vehicle more visable and hense safer.

Pat.:confused:

[P5 Rally]

ppl have all kinds of reasons...

folks wanna use their fogs as drl's
folks wanna use their parking lights as drl's
some don't wanna use drl's at all
u can't run HID's on our cars without this thing disabled

[Bumble G]

I know this is a fairly old post, but why in the name of Christ would anyone in his right mind want to disable something that has been proven to make your vehicle more visable and hense safer.

Pat.:confused:


Since this was my "how to" I feel obliged to reply.

I did it so I can drive with my fog lights on and the DRL's off.
I still use the DRL's durring the daytime.

So in my right mind,
I drive with the DRL's durring the day.
at dusk or dawn I drive with the fogs on / drl's off.
At night I use ALL the lights on the car (except high beams).

You should go complain about the people who drive at night with nothing but DRL's...

[Junior]

I know this is a fairly old post, but why in the name of Christ would anyone in his right mind want to disable something that has been proven to make your vehicle more visable and hense safer.

Pat.:confused:

It's not done on the grounds of 'making the car unsafe' for the road. It simply does not work well with the HID kits.

In my case, I have the DRL disabled but I got the independant fog light mod, so that I could flip on my fogs without having the headlights on. Everytime i get in the car (during the day) i'll turn the fog lights on for that "safety" feature. The beauty to that, is once I pull the key out of the ignition the fogs shut off. so there's no chance of me forgetting them on when the car is parked.

It's the same reason that guys lower their cars to the point that there's only 2" clearance all around, and it's not safe OR practical...

I think this is something subjective. If you're really concerned about safety and think that DRL's will save your life then DON'T do HIDs and stay with the stock setup. For those guys that prefer to trade off the crappy lighting at night to gain better visibility, with the HIDs, since they're more concerned about being able to see properly at night. Then having light on during the day. Different strokes for different folks....

...and SAY NO to drugs. :p ;)

[CrazyCaker]

u can't run HID's on our cars without this thing disabled

Yes you can, I am and have no problems. Sorry, just wanted to point that out. ;)

[Junior]

Yes you can, I am and have no problems. Sorry, just wanted to point that out. ;)

i think it's more a of a long term affect of NOT disabling the DRLs. Everything seems OK for now, but there's no telling what stress is on the ballasts or ignitors of the HIDs.

I think it'll come down to see, who's HID's last longer... yours or the guys that went the extra mile and disabled the DRLs.

Those bulbs aint cheap, and I chose to take care of my setup, and that why I felt that DRL disable will help to keep the life of the kit....

[CrazyCaker]

i think it's more a of a long term affect of NOT disabling the DRLs. Everything seems OK for now, but there's no telling what stress is on the ballasts or ignitors of the HIDs.

I think it'll come down to see, who's HID's last longer... yours or the guys that went the extra mile and disabled the DRLs.

Those bulbs aint cheap, and I chose to take care of my setup, and that why I felt that DRL disable will help to keep the life of the kit....

That's what a "LIFETIME WARRANTY" is for ;) And besides, if it was a big deal then the manufacture should have mentioned it in their so called instructions that came with the kit.

[thekid]

For the 10 minutes it seemed to take Jeff (xJethro) to disable the DRL's, I'd say it's worth it to avoid the hassle.

[CrazyCaker]

I guess, but you should really hooked up fogs or something else as DRLs, since it is the law.

[thekid]

I guess, but you should really hooked up fogs or something else as DRLs, since it is the law.

Which is what he did on Scooters car... and that may have taken him an extra 5 minutes, tops!

What do you propose I do on my car which doesn't come with fogs (ie. mine)... i plan on hooking up the DRL's to the parking lights in the spring, but until then i just run with my parking lights on all the time.

[CrazyCaker]

Which is what he did on Scooters car... and that may have taken him an extra 5 minutes, tops!

What do you propose I do on my car which doesn't come with fogs (ie. mine)... i plan on hooking up the DRL's to the parking lights in the spring, but until then i just run with my parking lights on all the time.

lol, not sure what you should do. I know that even having the fogs as DRLs is a pita because of changing those bulbs. I still plan to do something with the hi-beams, just waiting for warmer weather though. Because my HIDs are working fine as is, I'm not in too much of a hurry to do this.

[sevsev]

Is daytime running lights in the HTA though? I thought it was just to get a safety you need them.

[xJethro]

The only problem with guyz that dont have fogz....they only have one option to use as a DRL...which is their parking light. The only thing is though, when you turn on your parking light, the tail light and your dash lights up. Pretty much, you just want the front parking lights to work as a DRL...which can be done with a 12V SPDT Relay and diodes.

Let me know brian if this is something you want....i'll hook you up...;)

[sube]

All Cars in Canada after model year 1990 must have DRLs it's the law, and not just for passing the safety check. It is not yet law in the States.

Pat.

[sube]

Since this was my "how to" I feel obliged to reply.

I did it so I can drive with my fog lights on and the DRL's off.
I still use the DRL's durring the daytime.

So in my right mind,
I drive with the DRL's durring the day.
at dusk or dawn I drive with the fogs on / drl's off.
At night I use ALL the lights on the car (except high beams).

You should go complain about the people who drive at night with nothing but DRL's...

Oh I have problems with the idiots who drive at night on DRLs only don't get me wrong.

You on the other hand are still driving with some form of illumination be it fogs or DRLs.

My beef is with the fool who wants to disable DRLS because it is going to wear regular headlamp bulbs out faster. My point here is also is your life worth being able to run HIDs. If fogs are used you still have to remember to turn them on unless wired through the ignition then they will be on as soon as the car starts.

In conclusion my origional point was, if you disable DRLs without some other method of lighting to make your car visable to oncoming traffic then you are foolish.

Pat.

[sevsev]

Shouldn't the car itself be visible to oncoming traffic?

At the slight hint of gloomyness I always drive with my fogs on.

[Junior]

Oh I have problems with the idiots who drive at night on DRLs only don't get me wrong.

You on the other hand are still driving with some form of illumination be it fogs or DRLs.

My beef is with the fool who wants to disable DRLS because it is going to wear regular headlamp bulbs out faster. My point here is also is your life worth being able to run HIDs. If fogs are used you still have to remember to turn them on unless wired through the ignition then they will be on as soon as the car starts.

In conclusion my origional point was, if you disable DRLs without some other method of lighting to make your car visable to oncoming traffic then you are foolish.

Pat.

i can sorta understand where you're coming from... but that doesn't mean that i agree with you, so don't get somfortable and pull some gay shit.

But again, the trade-off for having better lighting at night with the HID's uis uncomparable to DAYtime running lights... i mean the day has enough light as it is. gloomy/raining/piss-poor days always require full headlighting system anyway

[Myk]

I don't have fogs and disabled my DRL. I ALWAYS put my parks on, illuminating front park lights and rear tail lights!

[Nutella]

Has anyone disabled the DRL only? (using the switch method in the HOWTO in this post, minus the fog stuff)

I'm wondering if the spike from DRL to lights-on switch causes premature lamp blowing???? Thats why I want to disable the bloody DRL.

- my OEM low beam just went. I'd like to get those SW lamps but read so many posts with peoples lights blowing. maybe DRL is a major culprit??

[CrazyCaker]

^ I doubt that's the cause. I feel the main reason the aftermarket bulbs blow so quick is because of the increased output they are being forced into putting out.

[Freestyle3313]

Talk to Fai, he has that, I have the disabled DRL and the fog lights can go on whenever I want. No problem here, or from Fai that I know of.

Has anyone disabled the DRL only? (using the switch method in the HOWTO in this post, minus the fog stuff)

I'm wondering if the spike from DRL to lights-on switch causes premature lamp blowing???? Thats why I want to disable the bloody DRL.

- my OEM low beam just went. I'd like to get those SW lamps but read so many posts with peoples lights blowing. maybe DRL is a major culprit??

[murda]

The photo link doesn't work anymore. Anyway you can post it back up?

[midnitehour]

can some one clearify "harness" end and "connector" end i'm assuming the harness end is the wire from the harness which connects into the drl module and the connector end is the wire coming from where ever into the harness. tried the mod on a 02 es sedan and doesn't quite work.
when i turn the car on all the lights come on including dash/ tail and drl lights
any help on this?

[midnitehour]

any help on this?..

[Bumble G]

here you go.

[midnitehour]

damit.....

[SNike05]

I haven't gone around to doing this but I did do another mod a few years ago that allowed my lights to turn off when the ignition was turned off instead of remaining on. So basically I drive without ever turning my switch off. Really helps if you have HID.

To do this you have to remove steering column covers (3 screws under stering wheel) then take the large gauge black wire at the bottom of blinker/headlight switch and cut it about 2 inches away from plug. Take a 30 amp relay and connect pin 85 and 30 to the side of wire away from switch. Then take pin 87 normally open and connect to switch side of wire. Finally take pin 86 to your ignition wire (reads 12v when car is on and dont forget to fuse it I used 30A if I recall). I've had this done I believe two years now without a single problem. I tie wrapped the relay to one of the metal brackets also so it wouldn't hang and move around in there. The original writeup was from tddelsol with the corrections made.

[Scooter]

I haven't gone around to doing this but I did do another mod a few years ago that allowed my lights to turn off when the ignition was turned off instead of remaining on. So basically I drive without ever turning my switch off. Really helps if you have HID.
...

But then your gauge lights and your parking lights and tail lights are on all the time too. Not sure why you would WANT to do that. Your going to go through a lot of bulbs pretty quickly. :confused:

[midnitehour]

my HIDs work perfectly fine with the drl since it draws power directly from the battery rather than the head light haress. yea agree with scooter why would you want all of your lights on all the time? what if you wanted to go into stealth mode?

[kornstar369]

this is pretty amazing...great work

[vicham]

I was doing this mod on Mon after my installation of HID on Sunday. I managed to disable the DRL but I have problem finding the fog light relay. Can any post a pic of what it looks like and describe to me where this thing is. I had an aftermarket security system that is blocking my view so it is so hard to me to find it.
Also, can anyone explain to me the purpose of the switch? from the diagram (after), the DRL is not connecting to anything else except for the switch. So what's the point of having a switch to turn on/off the DRL when it is not linking to anything?

[midnitehour]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/midnitehour/IMGP1014e.jpg

I'm pretty sure that's the relay. undo the bolts that holds all of the modules up there. makes it alot easier.

the switch is for turning your drls on (headlights) incase popo arrive or if you feel like being a good citizen for a couple of minutes.

[slowbird]

I have the DRL's disabled on my Grand Am and I drive with the parking lights and Fogs on during the day...great mod.

Then again...for my car it involved removing a Fuse...and volla! :o

[vicham]

so that's the fog light relay!!! thx for helping out...i will try this again
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/midnitehour/IMGP1014e.jpg

I'm pretty sure that's the relay. undo the bolts that holds all of the modules up there. makes it alot easier.

the switch is for turning your drls on (headlights) incase popo arrive or if you feel like being a good citizen for a couple of minutes.

[Marleymar]

were there any pics to go along with this DIY Fog mod ?

[midnitehour]

no pics.. the instructions are really good and the wires are color coded. so it's pretty easy to do.

[Marleymar]

no pics.. the instructions are really good and the wires are color coded. so it's pretty easy to do.

thxs

[Marleymar]

OK I successfully completed this mod today very easy to follow the directions (yes no pics needed) except I would ask for other who may try this move the image of the harness/connector moved closer to the directions will save time and encourage less errors just my 2 cents

[midnitehour]

it's always good to go through the entire thread in any "how to" for later corrections or additions to the first post.

[Marleymar]

very true midnite, lesson learned

[Marleymar]

Question to anyone who has done this mod I am finding my lights will run as normal and at some point turn off however still run if i turn on the park lights / then if i return to the car they will run again any ideas ??

[midnitehour]

i've done this mod.. wound up not using the switch for the drl's didn't have any problems when i had the switch in. recheck your connections. asap.

[Azi]

quick question here

has anybody wired their ign on signal wire to the fog light switch (instead of the parking light on signal wire), so that the fogs are essentially their DRL (assuming the switch is always on?)

is there even a ign on signal? and what colour would it be?

[Marleymar]

My concern was strickly to do with my alarm/starter setup got that fixed all is well.

[midnitehour]

quick question here

has anybody wired their ign on signal wire to the fog light switch (instead of the parking light on signal wire), so that the fogs are essentially their DRL (assuming the switch is always on?)

is there even a ign on signal? and what colour would it be?

i don't know if there's an exact ign wire. but you can connect them to a fuse that dependes on the ign being on. (cabin fuse box has plenty to choose from)

[Azi]

i don't know if there's an exact ign wire. but you can connect them to a fuse that dependes on the ign being on. (cabin fuse box has plenty to choose from)

i found the IGN1 wire that goes into DRL module...since the DRL isnt gonna be used anymore, i guess i can use that wire to turn on the fog relay, and thus having a full power DRL system...

[Marleymar]

^ care to share/ location /wire colour ??

[Azi]

hmm....its wire #1B on the smaller connector of the DRL harness...

If your looking at the pins of the smaller connector, i beleive its the bottom right one. as soon as my fog lights come in, i will wire it all up, and let you know exactally what colour wire, and what you can do.

[Azi]

so i finally got around to doing the mod

w/ the all the police crackdowns happening, they are searching for cats, tire rubbing, and mufflers, and anything else they can think of. eventually they will get around to searching the DRLs. we need to disable them for the HIDs. but i didnt want them on w/ the parking lights. i wanted my fogs to be the DRLs, and to come on when the car is on. so more or less independent. thankfully this wasnt hard to do.

in this mod, you used the 'parking lights on' lead wire to switch on the fog light relay. instead of doing that, i used the Ignition Lead wire, so when the car is on, the wire is active, and thus the fogs are on (assuming the switch is on of course).

the ign wire is on the other harness (physically larger of the 2) of the DRL. if you look at the harness, you have 5 thick and 1 thin black or red wires. the wire your interested in is the thin black/white wire, in the bottom right corner (if your looking at the harness, when its connected to the DRL module). i think its the only thin wire in that harness. so you cut the red wire from the fog relay, and connected it to this thin black/white wire. no need to connect it ot the light green/black illumination wire.

and i think, with this, you should stay relativly legal.

[SNike05]

^^^^ I'm wondering if you did what you are saying. Because the thin black/white wire has no power when the ignition is on. And the location where you are tapping is incorrect. If you want the fogs to be on without turning on the parking lights then you must tap either the ignition wire or the accessory wire. Which are both located on the ignition harness found on the left side of the steering column. You have to remove the plastic around the steering column to see it.

Acc. wire = Thick Black/Red
Ignition wire = Thick Blue

If you are using the acc. wire then the fogs will work when the key is at acc. and will turn off when you are turning the key and then will come back on just like the radio. I used the blue ignition wire.

[Azi]

nope, im positive i got the right one, cause i got it working. are you sure your looking at the correct harness?

the harness you should be looking it is the one that is physically bigger (with 6 wires). not the other physically smaller harness that has 8 wires. It is harness connector 1B.