Which summer tire should I get?

[991.8l]

Help me decide:

Fuzion ZRi $750/set
General UHPs $720/set
Yokohomo S.Drive $760/set
Sumitomo HTR Z III $610/set
Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport $710/set

I value handling, but I also want to get at least 3-4 seasons out of these tires.

[andrew2]

I use Hankook Ventus RS-2's which have awesome handling. Can't tell you much about how long they last because I've had them for less than one summer so far.

[Perma]

Aren't Fuzion ZRis considered an all season, but amazing in summer and shit in winter? Either way, that was my vote. I ran that for a summer season, and loved them. They look good, drive amazing in went and dry, and are very quiet.

[991.8l]

Aren't Fuzion ZRis considered an all season, but amazing in summer and shit in winter? Either way, that was my vote. I ran that for a summer season, and loved them. They look good, drive amazing in went and dry, and are very quiet.

Thanks Wes. They are Ultra High Performance Summer. (Basically Bridgestone Potenza G019s)

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Fuzion&tireModel=ZRi

[raghtal]

I love my Toyo Proxes4.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2584/3722740602_e2ca57b9b3_b.jpg

http://www.toyotires.ca/products/Proxes4.asp
http://www.toyotires.ca/products/tirespicts/Tires_lrg_PROXES4.jpg

Again, considered an all season, but are amazing in dry, wet, hot or cold.

[991.8l]

^ I like those.. but I was quoted quite a bit more for Toyos... and was kinda turned off that they had all season in the rating.

Toyo Proxes T1R: $1130/set
Toyo Proxes 4: $920/set

[soopa]

Toyo Proxes, yoko's second

[raghtal]

^ I like those.. but I was quoted quite a bit more for Toyos... and was kinda turned off that they had all season in the rating.

Toyo Proxes T1R: $1130/set
Toyo Proxes 4: $920/set

Think I paid $660.00 for my set of 4 from Tires23

[991.8l]

^ These are for my TSX 215/50/17, and the quote was from Tires23

[dead_cactus]

S-Drive's or Falken FK452's

[991.8l]

^ don't forget to vote... I'm thinking that the generals and yokos are my top choices. S.Drive seems to wear faster than generals.. however I have generals already on my pro.. and would like something different for my TSX.

[991.8l]

I just found out Yokohama has a $70 cash rebate on 17" tires going on right now till May 31... looks like I'm getting the S.Drive

http://www.yokohama.ca/Promotions/Spring2010/Spring2010_en.html

[dead_cactus]

Shop around for the best prices; Tires23, Exclusive Tire, Simply Tire, Go For Tires.

[myprotege5]

General or Fuzion is wat i would pick from that list but my other number one option is the toyo proxes 4

call the shop and ask to speak to marwlo or eric just tell him that lil kevin sent you

[P5 Rally]

I had fuzions....loved them!

[SKY]

Shop around for the best prices; Tires23, Exclusive Tire, Simply Tire, Go For Tires.

+1

I shopped around for the past few weeks and decide which tires to buy.
Picked up the Potenza RE760 Sports at Simply tires....best price from all the shops listed above. (Not saying Simply is the cheapest among all of them, but at least they hv the best quotes from the one I asked)

[991.8l]

I've contacted Tires23, Formula Import, Wheels for Less, Tirerack, Executive Wheels... I haven't got a quote from Simply yet.. but I've found them to be usually more than Tires23.. never heard of Go For Tires.

[991.8l]

Looks like Toyo offers a similar $70 rebate on a set of 17" tires.

http://www.toyorebate.com/FormPDF/RebateFormSP_10__en.pdf

[Bagman]

For what it is worth - I'm running RE760 Sports myself. 1st season with them was last summer. I found them quiet and comfortable. Held the road more than well enough in the dry and the same for the wet. During the insane down-pours we had last summer, the tires performed perfectly.

I did find them a tad bit lacking in steering repsonse. However, I think was tire-pressure related. I think I ran 34 in the front and 33 in the rear. This summer I'm going to start with 36 up front, 35 out back.

[991.8l]

^ The RE760 is well rated, only bad reviews i've read is wet traction. Maybe as the tire wears?

[Myk]

I think Im going with the Dunlop Direzza® DZ101 this year. Im sticking with 195/50-16 so my choices are limited.

http://www.dunloptires.com/dunlop/graphics/Tires/full/DIRDZ101.jpg

[The Destroyer]

I really like the General UHPs as they are amazing in wet conditions (and it rained a lot last summer). They aren't as sticky as some higher performing tires but for the price/treadwear you can't argue their value. Close second would be the Toyo Proxes 4's for me, but they are a bit pricey being their only downfall.

[Mike_Moss]

I think Im going with the Dunlop Direzza® DZ101 this year. Im sticking with 195/50-16 so my choices are limited.

http://www.dunloptires.com/dunlop/graphics/Tires/full/DIRDZ101.jpg

Great choice! :)

[dead_cactus]

I've contacted Tires23, Formula Import, Wheels for Less, Tirerack, Executive Wheels... I haven't got a quote from Simply yet.. but I've found them to be usually more than Tires23.. never heard of Go For Tires.

They're new and in Richmond Hill, just down the street from Audio Heaven. Talked to them a couple times and they seem really nice and know their stuff.

Store/Vendor Name: Go For Tires
Personnel Contact: Tony & Peter
Address: 25 West Beaver Creek Road, Unit 9, Richmond Hill, ON
Telephone: (905) 597-6359
Email: sales@gofortires.com
Website: http://www.GoForTires.com
Products/Services: Tires, Rims, Lug Nuts, HID Kits, Wheel Service (Mounting & Balancing)
Hours of Operation:
Mon - Friday: 10am - 7pm
Saturday: 10am - 5pm
Sunday: Closed

I would also add Nextmod on your list to get quotes from. When I was buying a new set of tires last summer I got quotes from 4-5 different places and Nextmod was the lowest by quite a bit.

[991.8l]

^ I sent an e-mail to them, thanks.

[Myk]

Great choice! :)

Thanks. I hope so.

[Bagman]

^ The RE760 is well rated, only bad reviews i've read is wet traction. Maybe as the tire wears?

If anything, yes. Wet traction is perfectly acceptable to me now, but as any tire wears its various characteristics will change. Tires will always been something very hard to review objectively anyways. I generally go by the overall rating and majority comments of a tire from Tire Rack.

[991.8l]

^ ya same here.. second review, guy with 14k on the tires
http://www.tirerack.com/survey/SurveyComments.jsp?additionalComments=y&commentStatus=P&tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE760+Sport&tirePageLocQty=

[Bagman]

I would completely ignore reviews like that guy's. I hate ppl that base their brand decisions upon 1 experience. Clearly either HE or the CAR is at fault for horrible wear characteristics, or he had a defective tires in some regard.

He is also driving an M3 with far more power, which is drastically different than a P5. Just normal driving will wear out the tires quicker then normal driving in a P5.

[991.8l]

^ I guess your right, didn't see another review similar to that. Prob over-inflated his tires. Looks like a good tire to consider.

Its rated #1 on tirerack, though with very little miles recorded.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHP


They are $720 via tires23.. technically less than the Generals and Yokohamas (before rebate).

[991.8l]

Found a Bridgestone Spring Rebate form online.. $50 off for the RE760 Sports

http://www.gm.ca/media/goodwrench/bridgestone_en.pdf?ADV=GSPENC054

or

http://www.bf-rebates.com/details/SP10CAEng.pdf

[myprotege5]

toyo has it too

[midnitehour]

Falken RT-615.

sucks in the rain, it'll only last a season and a half, costs more than those mentioned, stiff as ***k, but it'll rip your face off in the dry.

GET IT

[drunkmunky]

I got Falken 452's for the dd and they are great in the wet.

[991.8l]

I'm going to buy the Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sports, thanks guys.

[SKY]

I'm going to buy the Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sports, thanks guys.

Good choice, I like mine so far

Thanks for the BD rebate link, but eligble date from April 1st!!!
I bought mine at March 20th...but then if I buy it after April, I can't get the early bird pricing from Simply Tires.

50$Rebate divde by 4..so 12.50$ offf each tire....I guess it's even out w/o the Early bird pricing..

[991.8l]

^ what other tires did you consider?

[SKY]

^ what other tires did you consider?

Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport
Falken FK-452
Falken RT-615
Continental ExtremeContact DW
Dunlop Direzza DZ101


Here is 1 thread I started and asked for opinions on mazda24/7

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123768411

[CrazyCaker]

i got falken 452's for the dd and they are great in the wet.

+1.

[991.8l]

^ Falken FK-452 are real nice looking, but I want to stick with 215/50/17 not 225/45/17.

[The Destroyer]

^ Falken FK-452 are real nice looking, but I want to stick with 215/50/17 not 225/45/17.
They make the Falken 452s in 225/45/17.

[991.8l]

They make the Falken 452s in 225/45/17.

Exactly :p

[Mr_Sinister]

conti DWS kills the all season ranks, and can compete in the summer tire realm. what is crazy is the price. its relatively cheap

[SKY]

conti DWS kills the all season ranks, and can compete in the summer tire realm. what is crazy is the price. its relatively cheap

I quoted them, Is about the same range as Falken 452 and Bridgestone 760, maybe 10-15$ difference each tire....not THAT relatively cheap.

[Mr_Sinister]

I quoted them, Is about the same range as Falken 452 and Bridgestone 760, maybe 10-15$ difference each tire....not THAT relatively cheap.

when you factor in that it is actually snow capable and likely the best rain tire in class. I think thats where my value judgement comes in. To someone who has dedicated snows, or doesnt care about wet, then sure in a dry for dry. Its very possible those other tires edge out the Conti DWS.

For me, the tire is a winners, because its performs, and some crazy engineer made the tire last for ever with a 540 tirewear rating. :)

For the same amount of money vs. the others, my money would be on the Conti's.

[SKY]

^ I see.

I already have winter tires, so snow is not my concern for summer tires and I never trust all season in winter condition.

Can't really compare to other high performance summer tires if those are for all season use.

[Mr_Sinister]

^ I see.

I already have winter tires, so snow is not my concern for summer tires and I never trust all season in winter condition.

Can't really compare to other high performance summer tires if those are for all season use.

Actually , Conti is out to kinda change that mis conception. I have had the chance to interview Conti on these points. And in about a week I will heading out to their evaluation day to test the DWS and DW tires on their track setup. I have already purchased the tires after testing it on a WRX and on an EVO and it blew everyone away.

So the general rule that an All Season is a No Season tire is true since manufacturers make too many compromises in the process. Conti designed these from the ground up with with top priorities in mind. Right down to the construction of the tire and materials used. I was a fan of the Bridgestone 760's but because of their tire reinforcements it became a heavy tire and not too comfy for my tastes. On the track, it can and has won. But the DWS is pretty light weight. for the 245 40 18. the tire was about 6 pounds light per wheel. 6 pounds is a baby lol.

There is two weak spot to the DWS tires though.

One, the split pattern used in the design has a very slight numb spot in the middle that can be felt by anyone who seriously tracks their car and takes the tires to the limit.

Two, the sidewall is softer then any serious track tire. the design is acceptable by most dry racing standards, but alot of track guys felt it for sure.

My two cents.... :)

[CulRidr]

One question I need to ask: how many kilometres do you expect to drive/season? None of the above tires should get more then 15,000kms...
I had ZRIs and they lasted me two summers (12-15,000kms, don't know exactly) and they are down to just above the wear bars and will be replaced within the next couple of weeks.

[991.8l]

^ That for me?

I drive about 15,000kms a season. My V rated Michelin HX MXM4s have lasted me 4 years and were rated 300 UTQG.. the Potenza are rated 340UTQG.. so I hope to get 3-4 years out of them as well. Granted they are a W rated tire. Note I do NOT track my car, just DD.. so I doubt I will wear them in 2 summers.

[CulRidr]

Yes it was...and I don't track my car either. Just aggressive DD driving. Yours will probably last longer if you are light on the throttle and don't push it too hard in the corners, but then what's the point of having any of the tires mentioned in this thread/poll?
UTQG ratings mean very little and are by no means linear. The ZRIs are rated at 320 and there's NO way you'd ever get near 50,000kms...

[991.8l]

^ I drive the snot out of my car :)

What do you recommend then, a high performance all season?

[Mr_Sinister]

I put high mileage on my protege and have the General Exclaim tires on and they have performed well and have alot of tread life. I think they are rated at 380 for treadlife. The thing is, its a tire that is hit or miss, i run into some people that love it, some people that have an issue. Not sure why.

^ I drive the snot out of my car :)

What do you recommend then, a high performance all season?

I would go All season, because then your getting into tires that can handle wet conditions. If your not tracking your car then there is no reason for you to grab a serious summer tire. It will burn off fast and you will be back in the same position 2 years from now. In my opinion your priority will be dry traction, wet traction, and treadlife.

[CulRidr]

^ I drive the snot out of my car :)

What do you recommend then, a high performance all season?
I honestly don't know, but that category seems to be more of what your wants warrant. I'm sure some members here know of tires that handle great but also don't wear too fast.

[991.8l]

^^ Simpytire won't even sell them anymore due to the tirewall blow-outs.

I like them a lot on my protege.

[Mr_Sinister]

take multiple grains of salt with the list. but go thru 5 pages of reviews of the tires you like and see if you find a common theme of the good and bad.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHPAS

add some all season rubber to your list and see how they match up.

[CulRidr]

Ah yes, the Continental ExtremeContact DW has had phenomenal reviews. Try and find out how long they are expected to last and you may have a winner if the price is right...

[991.8l]

I will get a quote, looks like there is a $65 rebate on that tire currently.

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/ca/en/continental/automobile/themes/news/press_releases/hidden/news_press_docs/20100401_spring-promotion_en.html


Tire tread pattern is pretty busy looking! haha


Decent review here:

http://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-tires/462417-continental-extreme-contact-dws-in-the-rain-review.html

[Mr_Sinister]

I will get a quote, looks like there is a $65 rebate on that tire currently.

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/ca/en/continental/automobile/themes/news/press_releases/hidden/news_press_docs/20100401_spring-promotion_en.html


Tire tread pattern is pretty busy looking! haha


Decent review here:

http://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-tires/462417-continental-extreme-contact-dws-in-the-rain-review.html

damn, i wish i bought my tires tomorrow instead of last week lol, but i got them for a steal anyway so it works out to be the same. but ya, still a good deal.

[991.8l]

Continental Extreme Contact DWS $800/set

Even with the rebate i'm at $735, the Potenzas would be $650 after rebate.

[dead_cactus]

Just pick a tire already :p

You DDing the TSX now? If so you should start modding that instead of your Pro :yes:

[991.8l]

You DDing the TSX now? If so you should start modding that instead of your Pro :yes:

I've always DD the TSX.. and I plan on a few mods this summer. I just don't like ruining a good thing.. Protege needs mods to be liveable. Came with hubcaps, kinda boring all around.. now its a lot more fun to drive.

Back on topic. I'm getting the Potenza RE760s. If they wear out, they wear out. :)

[CulRidr]

Continental Extreme Contact DWS $800/set

Even with the rebate i'm at $735, the Potenzas would be $650 after rebate.
DW, NOT DWS!! The "s" is for snow and isn't as high performance as the DW, at least that's how I understood it

[991.8l]

^ Mr. Sinister was talking about the DWS which is the all-season tire. The DW is a high performance summer tire.

[Mr_Sinister]

^ Mr. Sinister was talking about the DWS which is the all-season tire. The DW is a high performance summer tire.

Both are High performance tires, but for different things. DW is more surface contact design and softer compound to allow for the best amount of dry sticky grip. The DWS tire is a higher performance tire optimized for water and snow evacuation. Sacraficing Dry traction slightly. but not by much. Still dont think so, watch the Tire rack videos and see for yourself.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/TireTestServlet?tireMakeModel=Continental_ExtremeContact%20DWS

[SKY]

Back on topic. I'm getting the Potenza RE760s. If they wear out, they wear out. :)

RE760 Sport is suppose to be good on Tread wear as well.

I saw DWS is even more pricer than RE760 and RE760 suppose to have better grip, that's why I dig out the DWS and getting RE760.

If DWS is 100$ cheaper than RE760...then I will re-consider. :lol:

[Mr_Sinister]

If its 215 45 18. you can go back to your vendor and ask for a better price in the 225 45 18. There is very little ratio difference and the price difference is dramatic enough to save you money. If you get the same Bridgestone tire that will save you money.

I bought my DWS 225 45 18s for 770 taxes and OTS in.

[991.8l]

^ he already bought the RE760s and has them on his car. :)

[Mr_Sinister]

right right... looking back i see it now. :) sorry about that :)

[Bagman]

Woot. He bought the tires I have.. What I win?

[SKY]

I got 225/40/18....I know somehow the 225 are cheaper than the 215/45/18.

I got them for 872$ all included OTS, damn tax.

[SKY]

99 1.8, if you decided to go with RE760. Simply tire's early bird pricing is good til April 7, + you can get the mail in rebate as the rebate begin April 1st.....double discount!

[991.8l]

Simply tire quoted me more than Tires23 though. Not by much, but still more.

[SKY]

Simply tire quoted me more than Tires23 though. Not by much, but still more.

Weird.

I pay 872$ at simply tire.
Tire 23 want 1000$

[991.8l]

I may end up going with simply tire depending on availability. They have the tires in stock, where Tires23 has to order them in for 3 weeks... if it will take longer than the rebate deadline, then I will just go to simply tire.

[SKY]

LOL, will the nice and warm weather like this, you sure don't want to wait any longer!

[991.8l]

Booked my appointment at Simply for April 13 :)

[991.8l]

Got my tires installed. Tires23 is a much better shop with better equipment IMO. At least they have a lift, where simply tire uses jacks :rolleyes:

oh well.

[The Destroyer]

Got my tires installed. Tires23 is a much better shop with better equipment IMO. At least they have a lift, where simply tire uses jacks :rolleyes:

oh well.
What's wrong with using jacks? If you were seriously lowered you'd appreciate jacks a lot more then lifts as some shops with ramps are hell for lowered cars. I don't think this is a valid reason for avoiding a shop at all. I find the better shops actually use jacks and also often use torque wrenches for tuner lugs instead of ruining them with impact guns.

[991.8l]

Just thought I would have seen at least one lift available. Not saying to avoid simply tire.. but if given the choice.. id prefer Tires23. Just my opinion.

[dead_cactus]

Just because Tires23 has a lift doesn't mean they're better than those that don't. I've dealt with Simply Tires a couple times and never had an issue where as when I refereed a friend to Tires23 for a set of winters and his rear right wheel almost fell off when the lugs were only hand tight.

[991.8l]

Thats a good point. Human error is tricky, even dealerships have that problem. Friend at work had his tires rotated and the wheel almost fell off on the way home.

I won't mention the problem one guy had at simply while I was there.. but I guess everyone makes mistakes. Its always a good idea to check your lugs before you drive home I guess.

[SKY]

I prefer Tire23 over Simply tire only because Tire23 is 10 min away and Simply is probably 25-30min away from me, just this time Simply tires gives a better deal and Tire23 said they won't match it.

I think Tire23 has a lot of walk in customers and make a line up very long for the spring/winter season. Simply tire, they arrange appointements and they hv a little waiting room with wifi and tea, coffee, cookies serving.

I do notice Simply tire didn't peel off the tire sticker completely when I got my RE760 and I peel the rest of the sticker by myself when the tires is already installed. Just a little mistake, but it is not perfect, lol

[991.8l]

^ I gotta head back to simply tire.. they did not balance my tires right.. vibrates when I hit 110 on the highway.

[The Destroyer]

^ I gotta head back to simply tire.. they did not balance my tires right.. vibrates when I hit 110 on the highway.
Damn thats no good. :(

[thekid]

^ I gotta head back to simply tire.. they did not balance my tires right.. vibrates when I hit 110 on the highway.

Did they use stick on (adhesive) weights? If so did they clean the rim properly before sticking them on? Also did you tape over them to ensure they stay on?

[991.8l]

Ya they used stick on weights on both the inner and outer part of the rim (i understand the outer part, since my rims don't have a lip for weights - but usually they put clip on weights on the inner part). I have never taped over these before (i've had 3-4 sets of new tires using stick on weights and never had to do this.. including winter wheels).

I doubt they cleaned the inside of the rim. They also did not line up the yellow dot with the valve stem (not even close), so there are a ton of stick on weights on the rim.

[Azi]

Ya they used stick on weights on both the inner and outer part of the rim (i understand the outer part, since my rims don't have a lip for weights - but usually they put clip on weights on the inner part). I have never taped over these before (i've had 3-4 sets of new tires using stick on weights and never had to do this.. including winter wheels).

I doubt they cleaned the inside of the rim. They also did not line up the yellow dot with the valve stem (not even close), so there are a ton of stick on weights on the rim.

a ton of stick on weights? are you sure the rim isnt bent?

[991.8l]

a ton of stick on weights? are you sure the rim isnt bent?

ya, had tires on these rims when I drove there. Smooth as silk, 2-3 weights tops.

[991.8l]

Damn thats no good. :(

When I had my tires installed, there was a guy there who had the same problem and was getting re-balanced.

[Bagman]

The RE760s are asymetric, but do have a marking for inside (or outside - I forget). So the tires does need to be mounted to the rim in that regard too. Just double-check that.

[mmorriso]

Did they use stick on (adhesive) weights? If so did they clean the rim properly before sticking them on? Also did you tape over them to ensure they stay on?


what tape do you recommend?

[991.8l]

The RE760s are asymetric, but do have a marking for inside (or outside - I forget). So the tires does need to be mounted to the rim in that regard too. Just double-check that.

ya all four yellow dots are facing outwards. I think I prob just threw a wheel weight. But if I can get them to re-mount to match up the yellow dots to the stems.. they would need less weights and there would be less of a chance for them to fly off. I will bring some tape I guess.. lol. duct tape FTL.

Guy at work recommends putting silicone to hold them in place.

Edit - So I spoke with Allen and he said hes been having problems with these tires.. they need to settle, add air pressure, then drive them, then let some air pressure out then rebalance....

I'm going back next week. He doesn't agree with the yellow dot... says its pointless.

[991.8l]

Yesterday I went back to have the tires looked at.

He says of the 700 Potenza 760s he sold, 30 have come back with vibration problems on the highway. Its due to container rash cause by stacking the tires, the weight damages the bottom ones. 18" tires with this problem can't be fixed, but 17" hes had success with the following method:

1. Decrease PSI in the tire to 10psi, drive the car on them for 3-4 mins.
2. Re-inflate, and re-balance.

This would help make them round again. He did that yesterday... I drove home on the highway and everything was perfect... I was pretty happy.

This morning I had the exact same symptoms I had the previous morning. Feels like these tires develop flat spots over night, then I feel a thump thump at about 60, then 80 on the highway ramp, then at 110 the car vibrates... once the car tires warm up.. it seems to be fine. I believe it was 8 degrees this morning.. yesterday on the way home it was 20ish degrees.

Are these bad tires.. or do they just do this? My General UHPs don't vibrate in any temp and they are UHP Summers. I don't know what to do next... I may try to get them replaced under bridgestone's 30 day satisfaction guarantee.

I live right next to the highway.. the tires have zero time to warm up, so I would have this issue 5 days a week.

I'm going to try to increase the air pressure from 34/32 to 36/34 and see if that helps... the last time I felt no vibration I had 37/37.. so I will try that next. Stock pressure is 32/30.

I counted the wheel weights to make sure I didn't lose any this time. There are 2 & 3 on the front and 4 and 11 on the back... ya thats right 11.. lol.

[Bagman]

I live right by the DVP myself. I do not have any of the problems you are describing, and I wouldn't put up with any of this BS any longer than necessary. With my new motor mounts I can finally hear the tires - or lack there of for noise. I find them quiet and I don't have any vibration. The RE760 is a great tire (I even ran RE750s too), but if it ain't working out for you, try something else. There are plenty other great choices.

Go yell at Bridgestone and say you want them replaced and some money back to keep your business.

[Mike_Moss]

I think you should be getting a new set of tires.

[SKY]

My RE760s has no issues. I drive on 401 on a daily basis as well.


I would be pissed if my brand new tires doing that to me. ><

[991.8l]

I've contacted bridgestone to see whats involved. Thanks for your comments guys.

[SKY]

Is it only the shipment to Simply tire that has issues (or Tire23 if you bought them there) or is that really a manufacture defect.

[991.8l]

Is it only the shipment to Simply tire that has issues (or Tire23 if you bought them there) or is that really a manufacture defect.

I got them from Simply Tire.. I don't know if Tires23 had any issues.. but I'm assuming they could have a problem with a batch also. I guess I was just part of the lucky few.

[thekid]

Sounds to me like a shipping issue. It happens, i remember a few years ago a bunch of R Compound tires were allowed to freeze in the container they were being shipped in, causing the carcass to separate when they heated up.

[SKY]

Where are the Bridgestone ship from?

[991.8l]

Where are the Bridgestone ship from?

Japan I believe.

Funny thing is that I cross-shopped prices between the US (driving to buffalo) and Canada.. and a lot of US made tires had savings of $2-300. Imported tires, like the Bridgestones only offered a $40-50 savings.

[SKY]

I quoted on tire rack as well. With shipping and brokerage fee. the price of the RE760 is almost the same as Simply tire, but Simply will mount and install the tires on my car for free, so Simply win.

[991.8l]

So the tires still vibrate this morning.. sucks.

When I go back, should I ask for replacement tires of the same brand or try something else? My other option was Yoko S.Drives.. but Simply charges a lot more for them than Tires23 does.. I'm not paying more for a tire I didn't want in the first place.

[Bagman]

My brother ran with S.Drives. I would say they would offer more grip and steering feel/response (stiffer side-wall) at the trade-off of treadlife and possibly a bit of road-noise. If Bridgestone won't give your money back or replace all 4 tires, or Simply Tire won't replace all four, get your money back from the retailer and buy something else.

[Mike_Moss]

so the tires still vibrate this morning.. Sucks.

When i go back, should i ask for replacement tires of the same brand or try something else? My other option was yoko s.drives.. But simply charges a lot more for them than tires23 does.. I'm not paying more for a tire i didn't want in the first place.

i think you should be getting a new set of tires.

...from the vendor that sold you the tires.

[991.8l]

^ Ya thats the plan. Allen is going to return them, he recommends Falken ZE912s.. but I'm not thrilled with their reviews in wet weather.

I want to just get General UHPs and be done with it.. they work great on my protege.. but he doesn't sell them.

Some other options:

Yoko Advan S.4.
Yoko Avid Envigor W
Conti Extreme Contact DW/DWS
Fuzion Zri

[Mike_Moss]

I'm running the ZE912 on the Yaris.

Not bad for an all-season.

[The Destroyer]

If he's going to give you the ZE912s ask for some money back as they are not as costly as the Bridgestone's you bought. He sells General UHPs, are you sure its just not in the size you are looking for?

[991.8l]

If he's going to give you the ZE912s ask for some money back as they are not as costly as the Bridgestone's you bought. He sells General UHPs, are you sure its just not in the size you are looking for?

Oh I know they are cheaper for sure, if I go that route id get some money back.

He told me from the start that he would like to avoid selling General UHPs as he's had too many sidewall blow-outs from customers.. and General won't do anything to warranty them. We'll see.

[SKY]

Conti Extreme Contact DW/DWS was my 2nd choice after the RE760 and they are like 40$ more than the Re760 for the set on my 18s.

ZE912 is just performance all season like the UHP. If you opt for the summer performance, I would stay for the simialr class which is DW or Falken RT615

[The Destroyer]

Conti Extreme Contact DW/DWS was my 2nd choice after the RE760 and they are like 40$ more than the Re760 for the set on my 18s.

ZE912 is just performance all season like the UHP. If you opt for the summer performance, I would stay for the simialr class which is DW or Falken RT615
Or he could go with the Falken 452s which are higher performing then the 912s and around the same price if not cheaper then the Bridgestone's you chose.

I have only heard the one person blowing out the sidewall of the General UHPs. Mine have been great the past year. Mine have a reinforced sidewall though not sure if all sizes come with them.

[Mike_Moss]

There's something about the 452 that I don't like.

Maybe it's because I don't like symmetrical tires, or the tread pattern just looks plain and played out.

[991.8l]

I really like the ZE452s.. but they only come in 225/45/17 not my OE size..

Do they still make the Falken ZE512s? Website says available at select retailers.

[The Destroyer]

I really like the ZE452s.. but they only come in 225/45/17 not my OE size..

Do they still make the Falken ZE512s? Website says available at select retailers.
The Falken ZE912s replaced the ZE512s. And why do you have to run OE sizes? I'm sure you can find a better tire size to compliment the TSX.

[991.8l]

I have only heard the one person blowing out the sidewall of the General UHPs. Mine have been great the past year. Mine have a reinforced sidewall though not sure if all sizes come with them.

ya me too, member on TOP.

I think with a 50 series tire, there would be less chance for a blow-out.. the one I heard about was 40 or 45 series.

[991.8l]

The Falken ZE912s replaced the ZE512s. And why do you have to run OE sizes? I'm sure you can find a better tire size to compliment the TSX.

225/50/17 would look good, but its a weird size..

225/45/17 is smaller than 215/50/17 so on a non-lowered TSX.. it looks 4x4. Lots of guys on TSXCLUB go that size and regret it, so they lower.. but thats not my plan.

[dead_cactus]

Falken still makes the ZE512 but you'll have a hard time finding them in Canada. I think Discount Tire is the US sells them.

The FK452 is a great tire, I'm on my second set and would buy them again.

[thekid]

ya me too, member on TOP.

I think with a 50 series tire, there would be less chance for a blow-out.. the one I heard about was 40 or 45 series.

Didn't the member who had a blow-out hit a manhole cover in a construction zone?

[991.8l]

Didn't the member who had a blow-out hit a manhole cover in a construction zone?

Exactly!


So I want the Generals.. and SimplyTire quoted me $783.49... $73 more than I paid for my bridgestones.. had I bought generals back 2-3 weeks ago from Tires23 instead.. they would have been about the same price as my bridgestones. :confused:

[SKY]

Generals should be cheaper than the RE760, not more expensive.....opt for something else. Is like you getting a Civic at the price of an Accord, No man...

And UHP have some bad review on the sidewalls, get something reliable this time, lol
You don't wanna replace your tires over again if something happend.

Here is the price list from Simply Tire on TM3 for 215/50/17.


215-50-17
Ironman iMax - $450.00
Falken ZE502 - $480.00
Falken 912 - $530.00
Hercules Ultra Touring VR - $530.00
Bridgestone Fuzion Hri - $540.00
Bridgestone Fuzion Zri - $570.00
Cooper CS4 Tour. - $650.00
Hankook K110 - $610.00
Kumho Ecsta SPT - $640.00
Kumho Ecsta LX Platinum - $700.00
General Altimax HP - $710.00
BF Goodrich Super Sport AS - $750.00
Yokohama S-Drive - $750.00
Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S - $800.00
Michelin Primacy MXV4 - $870.00
Bridgestone 960AS PP - $950.00
Bridestone Turanza Serenity - $990.00

[991.8l]

Ya same list he sent to me via e-mail. All plus tax and the $23.36 fee.

215-50-17
Ironman iMax $450.00
Falken ZE502 $480.00
Falken ZE912 $530.00
Hercules Ultra Touring VR $530.00
Yokohama Avid Envigor $530.00
Bridgestone Fuzion Hri $540.00
Bridgestone Fuzion Zri $570.00
Hankook K110 Ventus $610.00
Bridgestone RE760 Sport $620.00
Kumho Ecsta SPT $640.00
Cooper CS4 Tour. $650.00
Kumho Ecsta LX Platinum $700.00
General Altimax HP $710.00
Continental DWS $710.00
BF Goodrich Super Sport AS $750.00
Yokohama S-Drive $750.00
Continental DW $770.00
Toyo Proxes 4 $800.00
Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S $800.00
Michelin Primacy MXV4 $870.00
Bridgestone 960AS PP $950.00
Bridgestone Turanza Serenity $990.00

[991.8l]

CT has a sale on Goodyear Eagle GT tires $134.99 each. Thats $540 and they are eligible for a $40 rebate. haha

http://www.1010tires.com/images/tires/Goodyear/goodyear_eagle_gt_lg.jpg

[SKY]

I m surprise that DWS is 150$ more over the RE760 on your size.
Most tire manufacture offer tires rebate this month anyway. =)

[991.8l]

^ The prices Simply has quoted on all those tires (except for the Fuzion Zri) are $70-150 more than tires23. Only the RE760s are around the same price at both shop. I don't think he would appreciate if I asked for a refund.. but I also don't want to pay more than I should. I asked him to match Tires23 on the generals. We'll see if he can manage it.

[991.8l]

Simply came through. He got some money back from Bridgestone to cover his loss on the tires.. and I'm going to swap them with General UHPs. Hopefully problem solved. :)

I was driving my protege last night pretty fast around the corners, and I loved the ride and feel of the generals even in cold temps..

[SKY]

So Simply price matched Tire23's price on UHPs?

[991.8l]

So Simply price matched Tire23's price on UHPs?

yup. Basically don't have to pay anymore than I did for the bridgestones.

[Bagman]

Hopefully this is the end of your 13 page saga. lol

[991.8l]

haha thanks guys for your input. :)

[Gen1GT]

Like it's even a choice:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE-11&partnum=045VR6RE11XL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

$950 to your door, including all taxes and fees. Tire Rack owns.

[burlingtonprotege]

those tires look dirtypop
Like it's even a choice:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE-11&partnum=045VR6RE11XL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

$950 to your door, including all taxes and fees. Tire Rack owns.

[991.8l]

My general UHPs were finally installed yesterday... had the bridgestones for a month.. lol.

I immediately notice that the steering response is far less sharp than the bridgestones... those were pretty sweet tires.. shame they were defective. Car rides smooth again on the highway. Simply Tire went above and beyond to get me replacement tires. Allen gets two thumbs up!

[Bagman]

Depending upon what you are running now for tire pressure, you could bump it up a little (1-2 psi) to improve steering response. Glad you got it all sorted. :)

[SKY]

I still love my RE760s. hehehe
Goint to Montreal with them this week-end. XD

[davidwilsoon]

I use Hankook Ventus RS-2's which have awesome handling. Can't tell you much about how long they last because I've had them for less than one summer so far.
Aren't Fuzion ZRis considered an all season, but amazing in summer and shit in winter? Either way, that was my vote. I ran that for a summer season, and loved them. They look good, drive amazing in went and dry, and are very quiet.

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[timacks]

look into falken azenis 615rt
you decent prices and amazing handling

[D3monix]

the Bridgestone RE 760 are the way to go, I got em at costco installed in the spring for 570, with nitrogen, road hazard etc

[SKY]

the Bridgestone RE 760 are the way to go, I got em at costco installed in the spring for 570, with nitrogen, road hazard etc

+1
Had my 760 for the whole summer. Love the handling. :)