Friggin HID's!!!

[Skanky]

am i the only one that is absolutely sick and tired of being blinded by oncoming traffic or morons behind me with their HID's???

i know there are probably a lot of people here that have them, but seriously on a 2 lane/country lane/b-road these things are so blinding that they could cause accidents.

the worst are SUV/Minivan/crossovers cos they sit a bit higher and seem to just pierce your brain...

no. 1 culprit: acura MDX- brightest (stock) lights of any car i've ever encountered...

any others???

[BLACKK03]

I drive with my sunvisor down, our cars sit low enough that you can just hide the headlights by sitting a bit higher up in your seat with your back straight instead of slumped down.

[Skanky]

wow! how tall are you???

i never slouch in the car, my seat is pretty upright and i get blinded all the time.

5 foot 7 or so tall...

[Oryx]

Completely agree with you. Sometimes, i wonder if im going to crash, or hit an object on the road because when on coming traffic has them you cant see anything at all, thats likely why they are illegal except as stock on some vehicles.

[BLACKK03]

im 6'0

[00bluees]

mirrors are adjustable for a reason, move them so you aren't blind from people behind you.

as for people coming towards you, look at the road and not their headlights and you will be fine. a revalation i know.:p


some cars do suck tho. range rovers and jeeps seem overly bright (new models) and idiots with hid's that don't re-aim the headlight properly or have them in horrible housings.

[Oryx]

I have been thinking lately that if you cant beat em, join em. I may make the switch but who knows

[BLACKK03]

I have been thinking lately that if you cant beat em, join em. I may make the switch but who knows

I just turn on my high beams, Let them know theyre blinding you.

Use the rule "Dont do to others, what you dont want done to you." so if they get mad cause youre blinding them, They now know how it feels

[Azi]

i think the worst ones are the new dodge rams, that have the lows and fogs as HIDs

[zr6]

Probably not the safest thing, but sometimes I aim my mirrors to blind them back lol.

[starscream]

a song comes to mind... "i wear my sunglasses at night..."

Actually thats one of the reasons why HIDs are illegal in cars that didnt come with them from factory. Some halogens cases are made to project the light as best as they can and with HIDs in those its pretty insane. Unfortunately, you can only either a) have the visor down b) use your hand and drive with 1 hand c) sunglasses at night....both b and c are dangerous.. so... I hear ya tho skanky, i have that happen to me too...

but in the HIDs guys defense kinda, most of them are angled in correctly and hence blind people. You can have HIDs in a halogen case and have them angled so it doesnt blind people...most people arent that considerate tho.

[dead_cactus]

I never really had any problems being blinded and I drive quite a bit of country roads.

[distr0]

nothing wrong with HIDs in general, it's the 6000k+ colours that make me want to strangle people. i have 5000k and i feel like an asshole sometimes, i wish i went with 4300k

[non_event]

I drive with my sunvisor down, our cars sit low enough that you can just hide the headlights by sitting a bit higher up in your seat with your back straight instead of slumped down.

I'm 6'4" tall and I never use the sun visor. This might work for you, but if I have the visor down at all I find that it blocks off far too much of the road.

I don't notice a problem with others having bright headlights, of course I was trained to look away from the oncoming lights.

[Gen1GT]

Yep, being tall at hitting your head off the sunroof is the trade-off for rarely having to use the sun visor. ;)

I agree with 00Bluees, just look ahead at the road. And eveyone's mirrors should be adjusted to see you BLINDSPOT, not to the road behind you, so that shouldn't even be a factor. You already have a rear-view mirror for Pete's sake, you don't need three! LOL

[yello.mp5]

Probably not the safest thing, but sometimes I aim my mirrors to blind them back lol.

i do that all the time... lmao... or if someone has there highbeams on behind me at a red light i'll angle it to them, and i can see them trying to avoid in... lol its quite funny... .. im getting HID's next week... they are 8000K

[TheMAN]

don't bitch about getting blinded if you installed HIDs into your car yourself... that just makes you a hypocrite!

don't give me that excuse you can aim your shit and it'll be "OK" also because it isn't
http://www.imazda.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143

[starscream]

don't bitch about getting blinded if you installed HIDs into your car yourself... that just makes you a hypocrite!

don't give me that excuse you can aim your shit and it'll be "OK" also because it isn't
http://www.imazda.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143

You seriously need to relax a bit boss... ;)

[midnightblue97lx]

don't bitch about getting blinded if you installed HIDs into your car yourself... that just makes you a hypocrite!

don't give me that excuse you can aim your shit and it'll be "OK" also because it isn't
http://www.imazda.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143

Oh edwin. I love you so much.

[The Destroyer]

Ever since I re-aimed my headlights lower I've never been high-beamed. I don't see it being a problem as I really find the additional lumens to be an advantage as I've yet to hit an animal in over a year since installing them. Prior to that with the stock lighting I'd hit or come close to wildlife ever other week or so.

I hear ya on some cars though. Those new Jeep Cherokee's and Dodge Ram's are horrible they blind me even during the daytime. I hate Chrysler's with a passion.

[viper_707]

i dont care if someone has hids. its the ***kers that drive around with their high beams on cause their to stupid to replace a light bulb. they think its ok that both high beams work so why not use them all the time. just stupid. i have hids and have never been flashed. there aimed and i'm already low so its only hitting the roads

[CrazyCaker]

I got 50w hids just so I could blind mother***kers even more! :p

[distr0]

i feel unsafe now driving anything that doesn't have HIDs.... halogen is just so.. bad

[00bluees]

^+1

ever since i put hid's in my P5 i've felt better about being able to see!! and like many others i've yet to be flashed. if nobody out there thinks its too bright then thats good enough for me.

[midnightblue97lx]

Ever since I re-aimed my headlights lower I've never been high-beamed. I don't see it being a problem as I really find the additional lumens to be an advantage as I've yet to hit an animal in over a year since installing them. Prior to that with the stock lighting I'd hit or come close to wildlife ever other week or so.


I don't really believe that you were hitting or almost hitting wildlife on an every other week basis. And even if you were, you must not have hit anything bigger than a fox, or your car would have been written off long ago. Do you really think that mad tyte hidzzzz really helped?
Its luck, or lack of it pure and simple. Try paying attention to the road.

[7plymaple]

am i the only one that is absolutely sick and tired of being blinded by oncoming traffic or morons behind me with their HID's???

i know there are probably a lot of people here that have them, but seriously on a 2 lane/country lane/b-road these things are so blinding that they could cause accidents.

the worst are SUV/Minivan/crossovers cos they sit a bit higher and seem to just pierce your brain...

no. 1 culprit: acura MDX- brightest (stock) lights of any car i've ever encountered...

any others???

Hell ya! Absolutely rediculous. In the city its no big deal. In the country on a two lane unlit road the lights blind your vision of your own lane and even sometimes the shoulder to the right of you! Sometimes I cant see the road at all and I use the shoulder or white line on the right to make sure Im staying on the road. Sometimes I cant even see the shoulder!

Hopefully theyll smarten up and make laws that limit the brightness of lights. Ive been botherd by this since moving to the boonies and taking unlit roads to work at 5am. Untill things change just try to keep the windshield as clean as possible. Still doesnt help much though. Good thread! Major safety issue.

[TheMAN]

Hell ya! Absolutely rediculous. In the city its no big deal. In the country on a two lane unlit road the lights blind your vision of your own lane and even sometimes the shoulder to the right of you! Sometimes I cant see the road at all and I use the shoulder or white line on the right to make sure Im staying on the road. Sometimes I cant even see the shoulder!

Hopefully theyll smarten up and make laws that limit the brightness of lights. Ive been botherd by this since moving to the boonies and taking unlit roads to work at 5am. Untill things change just try to keep the windshield as clean as possible. Still doesnt help much though. Good thread! Major safety issue.
nice ignorant remarks :rolleyes:

it is NOT the brightness that is the issue, it is GLARE that is the issue... if you read that lighting thread I posted as well as daniel stern's website, you'll see what I'm talking about

european countries have MUCH brighter headlights but they are better designed than what we get, and they also enforce the use of high beams

canada has already passed laws to allow for such european lights if you manage to get them... unfortunately, they are not required because they must follow what the americans dictate or there will be a lot of screaming happening from the big 3


since headlights and other safety aspects of a car (anything regulated) is quite technical, I suggest you research what you want to bitch about first

[thekid]

Ever since I re-aimed my headlights lower I've never been high-beamed. I don't see it being a problem as I really find the additional lumens to be an advantage as I've yet to hit an animal in over a year since installing them. Prior to that with the stock lighting I'd hit or come close to wildlife ever other week or so.

I hear ya on some cars though. Those new Jeep Cherokee's and Dodge Ram's are horrible they blind me even during the daytime. I hate Chrysler's with a passion.

HID's don't help with avoiding animals if they jump out at the last second, which is usually the case. Proof:
http://www.toprotege.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31220&highlight=deer

[iBbLaCkMaN02Pro5]

Ever since I re-aimed my headlights lower I've never been high-beamed. I don't see it being a problem as I really find the additional lumens to be an advantage as I've yet to hit an animal in over a year since installing them. Prior to that with the stock lighting I'd hit or come close to wildlife ever other week or so.


Why are people challenging this? If dude says he can see better and therefore avoid more animals, it means that.... he can see better and as a result can avoid more animals. He isn't claiming that Tony Stark designed his HIDs and can lock on to animal heat signatures and throw his P5 into autopilot to avoid the danger.

[starscream]

He isn't claiming that Tony Stark designed his HIDs and can lock on to animal heat signatures and throw his P5 into autopilot to avoid the danger.

If i can get a set of these HIDs, it would be awesome!

But i do agree with ya on yer point though.

[BLACKK03]

i got high beamed last night, and i dont even have hids. Just really bright blue lights lol

[7plymaple]

No I think Ill bitch about what ever pisses me off without doing any research because its just more fun that way.

Brightness.

Im sticking with brightness.

Simon

nice ignorant remarks :rolleyes:

it is NOT the brightness that is the issue, it is GLARE that is the issue... if you read that lighting thread I posted as well as daniel stern's website, you'll see what I'm talking about

european countries have MUCH brighter headlights but they are better designed than what we get, and they also enforce the use of high beams

canada has already passed laws to allow for such european lights if you manage to get them... unfortunately, they are not required because they must follow what the americans dictate or there will be a lot of screaming happening from the big 3


since headlights and other safety aspects of a car (anything regulated) is quite technical, I suggest you research what you want to bitch about first

[The Destroyer]

I don't really believe that you were hitting or almost hitting wildlife on an every other week basis. And even if you were, you must not have hit anything bigger than a fox, or your car would have been written off long ago. Do you really think that mad tyte hidzzzz really helped?
Its luck, or lack of it pure and simple. Try paying attention to the road. How can I pay attention to the road when I can't even see anything at night past say 15 feet because of shitty halogens? I really don't see your argument at all. I'm not saying I hit animals every other week but I did come close MANY times and hit a cat, a few raccoons and almost a deer amongst a few others. With the brighter lighting I've been much more fortunate and haven't come close to any wildlife and can see more of the road to avoid anything much more ahead of time. I drive on a lot of country roads and hids have helped me immensely. My next car will no doubt come with projector housings to help with the cutoff.

Whatever you say though, just go and enjoy your super-pimp halogens and avoid all animals with your super gamma-ray vision. :rolleyes:

HID's don't help with avoiding animals if they jump out at the last second, which is usually the case. Proof:
http://www.toprotege.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31220&highlight=deerOh I definitely agree with you Brian. Luck is a part of it as well. But you can't question the improvement in lighting that HIDs have over the stock halogens.

[prot3g3]

I just turn on my high beams, Let them know theyre blinding you.

Use the rule "Dont do to others, what you dont want done to you." so if they get mad cause youre blinding them, They now know how it feels


so your saying you turn on your highs against there lo's?

don't forget that most of these SUV's come factory like that so its not the drivers problem.

dont look at the lights either then, look at the road. or just don't drive at night.

[Diddy]

woot woot...HID arguments again....love reading these posts.... =)

[midnightblue97lx]

How can I pay attention to the road when I can't even see anything at night past say 15 feet because of shitty halogens?

Whatever you say though, just go and enjoy your super-pimp halogens and avoid all animals with your super gamma-ray vision. :rolleyes:



If you can't see more than 15 feet in front of you with shitty halogens then you shouldn't be using those supa phat blue euro-lites, get some real bulbs. I could see more than 100 feet with foggy headlights but good bulbs in my 97 lx.
Hell, my parent's old 84 station wagon you could see almost that far with its shitty sealed beams.

Sorry, but my halogens with good bulbs, despite being legal can't compete with the tyteness of your hidzz

EDIT: While we're on the subject, read the shit on this site, including the PDFs.
And by read, I mean take some time and READ, don't just scan through it and say "yeah yeah I knew that".
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/bulbs.html

In fact, why don't you just click on the tech section and read everything, not just the shit about bulbs while you're there.

Quote from the site:
It's tricky to judge headlamp beam performance without a lot of knowledge, a lot of training and a lot of special equipment, because subjective perceptions are very misleading. Having a lot of strong light in the foreground, that is on the road close to the car and out to the sides, is very comforting and reliably produces a strong impression of "good headlights". The problem is that not only is foreground lighting of decidedly secondary importance when travelling much above 30 mph, but having a very strong pool of light close to the car causes your pupils to close down, worsening your distance vision...all the while giving you this false sense of security.


Makes sense doesn't it?

[raghtal]

I have HIDs in the TL, and I never get highbeamed from another oncoming driver.

One thing I do like about the 3rd Gen TL is that the Auto function setting on the headlights allows the car to use a light sensor to turn on the HIDs instead of the halogens. Pretty cool that in some older underground garages I don't have to take my hands off the wheel to flick on the HIDs so I can see obscure objects.

[e2wJunglist]

i dunno wtf is the problem.

I have laser pointers taped to my hood angled to point directly in peoples rear view mirrors. It was a sweet mod I picked up in Japan. Nobody seems to mind. :rolleyes:
Although I have witnessed more accidents lately. hmm..

[Filippo]

I drive with my sunvisor down, our cars sit low enough that you can just hide the headlights by sitting a bit higher up in your seat with your back straight instead of slumped down.

Yup, i agree here too, im also 6'1

[RicecookerP5]

No I think Ill bitch about what ever pisses me off without doing any research because its just more fun that way.

Brightness.

Im sticking with brightness.

Simon

LMFAO! good one :lol:

[Keegz]

I just installed HID hi/lo kit on my bike... cant wait to try it out :P