1.6 L pushing 147 HP

[rowan]

Well, Simon .. better start saving for that turbo kit.. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10064 (http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10064)

Hopefully the guy who actually has the dyno will post his hard numbers and some details of the system..

[7plymaple]

Woa! 70 more horse would be sweet! But I think my cars good enough right now for me to learn how to drive on.

[pawood]

Turbo is a great way to increase the horsepower of the motor, BUT.... what do you need to do, when does the turbo boost kick in? Are you moving up to another grade of gasolene? Is the turbo inter-cooled (water jacketed around the fan casing), etc.

Adding a turbo to a normally aspirated car is not a real good option. You are gaining HP in a very short part of the torque-curve. Getting half that HP through cams and porting is a better bet and far more stable as an addition to the car. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif

[7plymaple]

When you get cams are you gonna get ones with adjustable cam gears? If we did this is it possible to tune them without a bunch of expensive equipment?

[midnightblue97lx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mr. 1.6 @ Aug. 06 2002,12:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When you get cams are you gonna get ones with adjustable cam gears? If we did this is it possible to tune them without a bunch of expensive equipment?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I believe that you can't purchase cams with the gears, adjustable or otherwise, unless you just happen to order them from the same place at the same time. I could be wrong though.
As far as tuning them, its not that hard I think the only thing you would really need is a dyno to really see what works, or just go by the seat of your pants. The problem is, you adjust them one way and gain power somewhere, in the top end lets say, but you lose alot in the bottom end, and vice-versa.

[7plymaple]

Im not sure what you mean. I was asking if the cams with adjustable cam gears would be worth it instead of just getting more agressively ground cams. By cam gear I meant the gear on each camshaft that the timing belt runs on and drives the cam.

[hondakilla]

I do not agree Pawood,

I think that forced induction is an excellent way to gain HP if its done right. If someone is going to add a turbo or supercharger it can have very impressive results if they build their engine up to handle it. Overboosting is common and is most often the result of ignorance or watching &quot;Fast and the ......&quot; to much. A properly built motor can handle a turbo nicely at 7-14psi of boost with no ill effects and dramatic increases in power. And as far as moving up another grade of gasoline I am pretty sure if someone is going to shell out the $ for a good turbo than they can handle an extra 10 cents a litre at the pumps!

Just my opinion....

[pawood]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (hondakilla @ Aug. 06 2002,05:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I do not agree Pawood,

I think that forced induction is an excellent way to gain HP if its done right.  If someone is going to add a turbo or supercharger it can have very impressive results if they build their engine up to handle it.  Overboosting is common and is most often the result of ignorance or watching &quot;Fast and the ......&quot; to much.  A properly built motor can handle a turbo nicely at 7-14psi of boost with no ill effects and dramatic increases in power.  And as far as moving up another grade of gasoline I am pretty sure if someone is going to shell out the $ for a good turbo than they can handle an extra 10 cents a litre at the pumps!

Just my opinion....[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I agree with you... if it is done right! A few extra pounds is good, where I'm coming from is a variable boost system that can be used and abused. Engines are usually built to the bottom end of the tolerance spectrum, so boosting the car above 7-14 psi can be prickly.

[midnightblue97lx]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mr. 1.6 @ Aug. 06 2002,03:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Im not sure what you mean. I was asking if the cams with adjustable cam gears would be worth it instead of just getting more agressively ground cams. By cam gear I meant the gear on each camshaft that the timing belt runs on and drives the cam.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Ah, o.k. I thoutght you meant like just buying some cams andf they woul come with adjustable cam gears from wherever you bought them.