Revision mode bypass?

[dArkCoBrA]

I got the pro2w900fm-as installed last week and am loving it except for the revision mode. I'm a contractor and use my car for work a lot and am constanly running to grab stuff from the the car (mostly back seat since the sub takes up the trunk) and everytime i need to reset the revision mode.

Looking at the paper work i see it can be switched from manual to auto by cutting a wire in the unit, would this be the best way to bypass this revision mode?

[Mike_Moss]

I think you mean "Reservation Mode".

Anyway, if you had it installed as an automatic and they used the neutral trigger wire that even the MT's have, you'd be fine.

Consider getting that changed.

[dArkCoBrA]

Err, yea thats the one... I don't really want to have to take it back in & waste time i dont have if its something that can be done in my garage. Is there a wireing diagram out there for this?

[red-i]

i'm sure someone still has the wiring diagram for the 900fm-as lying around. that will show you where the neutral trigger wire goes, but i'm not sure where it is on our cars. best bet might be to contact one of our vendors, since none of us really install this stuff ourselves. it's a shitload of wires.

and i have the same alarm as you, and had it installed with the neutral trigger wire. it's definately the way to go, so much easier to start up the car.

[typhoonk]

do you have a manual transmission truck?
if so you have to have the reservation mode enabled and safety hookups done to prevent starting in gear.

if you have a auto truck and they installed a manual transmission starter, then you need to go to a new shop.

[red-i]

i'm assuming he has a 5spd protege and needs to use reservation mode in order to autostart it. our car has a neutral trigger wire that the compustar can use instead of reservation mode. the compustar will ONLY start if it sees the car is not in gear.

[dArkCoBrA]

Awsome, thanks. Yeah its 5spd... The only reason i wanted to do it myself is cuz the guy i took it to is in scarb and i work insane hours in different ends of the city, guess i'll just have to make time.

[dead_cactus]

^^^ Did you take it to Lockdown?

I know that Lockdown in Scarborough is offering some great hours by appointment only. Starting around 6am and staying open as late as midnight.

[dArkCoBrA]

No, Jake Tech... He was recommended to be by the guys at auto sports in pacific mall. But i'll check them out thanks

[prot3g3]

also audio heaven deals with compustar

[Audio Heaven]

Hi,

Yes if you do need anything let me know

Thanks guys

[typhoonk]

i'm assuming he has a 5spd protege and needs to use reservation mode in order to autostart it. our car has a neutral trigger wire that the compustar can use instead of reservation mode. the compustar will ONLY start if it sees the car is not in gear.


where is this wire I would like to test this

[typhoonk]

nevermind found it. this is a sweet feature on cars.

[typhoonk]

found the pink/green neutral wire at the PCM under the passenger floor carpet. The PCM is under the steel plate, held on by 4 10mm nuts. There is only one plug on the driver side of the PCM.
Yes it only works when the ignition is on, and yes it goes to +12 volts when in gear.
So hooking it up to a DEI product is a cinch. (look for black/white wire).

I unfortunately have a Nordic Start brand starter. I tried using the diode method to hook it up to the brake input of the starter - but the starter doesn't check this until after the starter has cranked once. Not good.

Gonna have to think about this one.

[Myk]

Yeah I just got my Compustar, and Im a bit confused.

In reservation mode, then I need to get something out of the car, so I unlock/disarm, get it, then lock/arm and the Autostart is disabled??

[dead_cactus]

Yeah I just got my Compustar, and Im a bit confused.

In reservation mode, then I need to get something out of the car, so I unlock/disarm, get it, then lock/arm and the Autostart is disabled??

As far as I know yes the autostart will be disabled. If I have it in reservation mode and need to grab something from my car I will re-set it back to reservation mode at the same time.

How do you like your Compustar? What model did you get?

[Myk]

My wife got me a GC for AudioHeaven and I just got the CompuStar Pro P2W9000FMR installed yesterday.

Up untill this morning I thought it was great, but this stupid-ness of having the remote start disabled is really bugging me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't you just have it so it, turns off like a normal car, you press the button to lock/arm, and still have it able to remote start. This all seems kinda' stupid.

[dead_cactus]

Your right, it would be nice.

I think the reason the autostart is disabled is due to the fact that both our cars is 5spd.

I could be one of the safety measures of the unit.

Maybe its possible to keep the vehicle in reservation mode and still have the option to lock and unlock the vehicle.

Try giving Jeff a call at Audio Heaven, he is open until 7pm on Sundays and is always willing to answer questions over the phone. If you do call let us know what he says.

[Audio Heaven]

Hello,

This is a topic that is brought up very often.

The reservation mode is a mode designed to protect you and others. the unit can not be set to to lock and unlock ( while in mode )as if a door is opened then the car could be put into gear by accident and jump.

It is a saftey feature of the unit and thats Why compustar is the BEST for manual tranny cars.

Please let me know how you feel about this

Thanks

Jeff Try
Audio Heaven Inc.

[LOCKDOWN]

Hello Everyone

While the neutral safety switch will indeed prevent the vehicle from being started in gear, as remote starter installation providers, companies such as ours (LOCKDOWN) or Audio Heaven etc. etc. face a dilemma when being asked to install a customer's remote start system on their 5 speed vehicle and hooking it up to this circuit.

You see there is a liability issue at stake here, whereby if we hook the remote starter up to the neutral safety switch wire, thereby eliminating the "reservation mode" sequence, and at some point in the vehicle's lifetime something goes wrong and the car starts while in gear (where if it's been left in first, second, or even third gear it will most likely jump and quite possibly drive until it hits something or god forbid someone) then we as the installation provider can and most possibly would be held liable.

We have to abide by the settings and installation instructions provided by the remote starter manufacturers, both to ensure proper functionality of the products we install, AND to cover our butts with regards to liability.

The settings and installation instructions provided by ALL manufactuers of 5 speed compatible remote starter products state specifically that some form of "reservation" sequence be followed, which means that if a door is opened after the sequence has been engaged, you'd have to re-do the sequence all over again. This is to ensure the vehicle is NOT in gear.

With all of this said, as the owner of LOCKDOWN, and the person who is ultimately responsible for EVERYTHING we do or install, I cannot hook up a remote starter system to a neutral safety switch and bypass the safety features of any of the 5 speed remote start products we carry.

Please feel free to call us anytime with any questions you may have on this or any other electrical products we carry.

(647)-435-5896

Regards

Jeff Bates
LOCKDOWN Enterprises Inc.

[Myk]

OK I had to go to a job site today, which means I need to get into the hatch and put my workboots on. This mode does not work for me. I was looking through the manual, and found this...

Reservation Mode Settings
Reservation mode settings can be programmed with Option 1-6. It is recommended that reservation mode settings are programmed by your local authorized CompuStar dealer.
Default 1: Locks doors when reservation mode is set.
Option 2: Does not lock doors when reservation mode is set.
Option 3: Reservation mode sets 10 seconds after the last door is closed, as opposed to immediately. This option will allow you to access the vehicles rear doors, trunk or hatch prior to the system setting reservation and passively locking/arming.

If I wanted it set to Option 2 or 3, is it something I can program, or should I get my installer to do it?

[Kansei]

Option 3 looks pretty good, but if it lets you open the doors after it shuts the car off then it's no dice from a liability standpoint.

Does that mean it'll leave the car running for those 10 seconds after the last door is closed? That would be perfect.. gives you time to get in and out of the car/hatch to get stuff as needed.

[Myk]

^^I think it turns off the car, but does not lock it RIGHT away. Lets you get into the trunk or rear doors.

Option 2 looks good also, you would just need to lock it manually. I think this is best, as it eliminates the chance of locking the keys in the car.

[Audio Heaven]

yes but once a door is opened then Reservation mode is lost and will have to be set up again.

So even if it is set 10 sec after the last door, then if you needed to get boots out then the mode is lost again.

either way your in the same boat my friend.

This is a down fall to putting a starter in a standard car and we look out for your safery and others around you.

That why we do it proper

I will call you Mike and go from there

We want to make you happy

Thank buddy

[Myk]

^^Damn it.

Make me happy! :mad:

:p

[Myk]

Option 3 looks pretty good, but if it lets you open the doors after it shuts the car off then it's no dice from a liability standpoint.

Does that mean it'll leave the car running for those 10 seconds after the last door is closed? That would be perfect.. gives you time to get in and out of the car/hatch to get stuff as needed.

Jeff just told me how to set Option 2. He said that it will still cancel reservation mode if any doors are open, but I still prefer manual locking to auto locking.

[Kansei]

very.. then you just lock when you're done, and it shuts the engine off, right?

I'm out in the garage troubleshooting a compustar remote start as I type this (not my car, housemate's Volvo). The shop that installed it did a TRASH job, always trouble. Car won't start, remote or by key, battery is fine.. get in car, push brake pedal, blue LED goes solid. ugh

time to look up some troubleshooting guides ha

[Myk]

very.. then you just lock when you're done, and it shuts the engine off, right?



No, I think it will do the Reservation Mode, just like before, shuts down when you close the door, but does not lock it. You will need to lock it manually with the remote.

I haven't tried it yet.

[red-i]

mine uses the neutral trigger wire. neener neener!

[Kansei]

No, I think it will do the Reservation Mode, just like before, shuts down when you close the door, but does not lock it. You will need to lock it manually with the remote.

I haven't tried it yet.

I doubt it, it wouldn't at all be safeguarded then. It probably waits to shut it off until you lock it. Let us know though..

[Audio Heaven]

I think Mike is finally happy :) :) :) :)

No lock upon reservation mode

Sincerly,

Jeff Try
Audio Heaven Inc.

905 763 1686

[Myk]

I doubt it, it wouldn't at all be safeguarded then. It probably waits to shut it off until you lock it. Let us know though..

Yeah, its shuts off when you close the door and DOES NOT auto lock.

Wicked, thanks Jeff.

[Kansei]

but if you open the unlocked door it cancels reservation mode? or not until you lock?

[typhoonk]

mine uses the neutral trigger wire. neener neener!

dang it!!! my neutral trigger wire, doesn't have enough juice to work on mine!!!!

[Myk]

but if you open the unlocked door it cancels reservation mode? or not until you lock?

Oh, no your right. Any re-opened doors de-activates the reservation mode, for safety reasons.

The above setting is just so I don't exit the car with the keys in the car and have the door lock.

Im screwing around with the proximity setting, auto lock and unlock when you walk away, and back to the car. (But it seems like the minimum range setting is still to big, as it keeps locking and unlocking when Im in my office and when my keys are on the front table at home.

[midnitehour]

where is this wire I would like to test this

pin number 64 off the ecu harness.