View Full Version : My Thumper Kit Install
CrazyCaker
March 21st, 2006, 08:03 AM
I decided to start a thread about my Thumper kit progress. This will be easier to keep track of, and avoid multiple posts as I move along with this project.
T3/T4 turbo with polished compressor housing & ceramic coated turbine housing - INSTALLED
Extra large 3.5" thick IC with polished cast tanks - INSTALLED
Tubular, Stainless Steel manifold,ceramic coated - INSTALLED
External wastegate (Turbonetics Evolution) - INSTALLED
50mm Blowoff valve (Turbonetics Raptor) - INSTALLED
3" stainless downpipe - INSTALLED
powdercoated charge(cold) pipes(Black) - INSTALLED
3" intake - INSTALLED
silicone hose couplings - INSTALLED
clamps - INSTALLED
Reinforced PVC vaccum lines w/ Parker push-loc connectors - INSTALLED
2 -12" fans - INSTALLED
steel braided oil drain line - INSTALLED
steel braided oil feed line - INSTALLED
Other stuff already installed, or being installed at the same time:
2.5" Megan cat-back - INSTALLED
2.5" MAM catted mid-pipe - INSTALLED
AWR Motor Mounts - INSTALLED
H&R springs w/ Tokico HPs - INSTALLED
AEM wideband - INSTALLED
Boost, oil pressure, oil temp, voltage, and egt gauges - INSTALLED
IM and TB spacers - INSTALLED
UR underdrive crank pulley - INSTALLED
Custom 10 pt. grounding kit - INSTALLED
TWM SS w/ KB shift linkage bushing - INSTALLED
550cc injectors - INSTALLED
EBay Oil Block adaptor - INSTALLED
Derale Combo Tranny (4-pass)/Oil (6-pass) Cooler - INSTALLED
Exedy Stage 1 Clutch - INSTALLED
MFactory Helical LSD - INSTALLED
Fidanza 7lbs Flywheel - INSTALLED
Vibrant Vaccum block - INSTALLED
Microtech LT10s w/ Hand Controller - INSTALLED
Ebay Oil Catch Can - INSTALLED
Medieval Lightened ALT/WP/PS Pullies -
Medieval Adjustable Cam Gears -
Medieval Air Diverter - INSTALLED
Greddy Profec B Spec II Boost Controller - INSTALLED
Carbon RC style hood - INSTALLED
Custom Grill - INSTALLED
Custom Eyelids - INSTALLED
Perrin Fuel Rail - INSTALLED
CrazyCaker
March 21st, 2006, 08:03 AM
T3/t4
CrazyCaker
March 21st, 2006, 08:03 AM
50mm BOV (Turbonetics Raptor) & External Wastegate (Turbonetics Evolution)
CrazyCaker
March 21st, 2006, 08:03 AM
FMIC, Oil lines, and stuff. & 2.5" hi-flow catted mid-pipe (not included in kit)
CrazyCaker
March 21st, 2006, 08:04 AM
reserved 4
CrazyCaker
May 19th, 2006, 09:49 PM
WRX 440cc injectors finally arrived. These are direct drop in replacements, and came with Protege specific spacers and adaptors.
CrazyCaker
May 26th, 2006, 09:44 AM
Finally got my oil block adapter brought up to me from Chicago. This thing looks great, and comes with 2 different sized fittings (different lengths). I'd recommend it if you plan on installing an oil pressure sensor, turbo oil lines, etc.
CrazyCaker
October 10th, 2006, 10:37 AM
Thread cleaned up.
wow... I haven't updated this thread in ages. New pics and additions will be added over the next few days.
Hwy Demon
October 10th, 2006, 12:58 PM
So What the Hell is going on? How is the Install?
CrazyCaker
October 10th, 2006, 01:02 PM
So What the Hell is going on? How is the Install?
If I had my downpipe this bitch would have been installed already. :rolleyes: But having to wait for it has allowed me to build up even more goodies :)
Hwy Demon
October 10th, 2006, 01:14 PM
If I had my downpipe this bitch would have been installed already. :rolleyes: But having to wait for it has allowed me to build up even more goodies :)
Like what? An Expresso Macvhine in your Glove Box? Or a Condom dispenser in the BackSeat?
CrazyCaker
October 10th, 2006, 01:16 PM
Like what? An Expresso Macvhine in your Glove Box? Or a Condom dispenser in the BackSeat?
both are awesome ideas, but I was refering to stuff like oil/tranny combo cooler, MicroTech LT10s, etc.
Hwy Demon
October 10th, 2006, 01:26 PM
both are awesome ideas, but I was refering to stuff like oil/tranny combo cooler, MicroTech LT10s, etc.
I C Well Good Luck with That!!!
HaHaHa Funny thing is just before I posted you just finished cleaning up the Thread. lol
Your Welcome
CrazyCaker
October 24th, 2006, 03:27 PM
Mmmmm..... MicroTech LT10s just arrived at my doorstep this afternoon! I'll be installing this bitch hopefully this weekend so I can start fooling around with it.
Some pics to come.
CrazyCaker
October 24th, 2006, 07:08 PM
Thumper Manifold
CrazyCaker
October 24th, 2006, 07:09 PM
Derale oil/tranny combo cooler
TokyoRacer
October 24th, 2006, 07:28 PM
That manifold is a crazy looking piece of work lol. Get that ish chromed yo Or powder coated some nice colour.
yellowmsp03.5
October 25th, 2006, 12:12 AM
hey joe you got that thumper tubluar mani from mam i see... i know they stopped production on these... and i think my stock mani is starting to crack. do you know anywhere i can get a hold of the mam tubular one? just thought you might have some info
CrazyCaker
October 25th, 2006, 06:29 AM
hey joe you got that thumper tubluar mani from mam i see... i know they stopped production on these... and i think my stock mani is starting to crack. do you know anywhere i can get a hold of the mam tubular one? just thought you might have some info
They are extremely hard to find, not many were made. I did see one not to long ago for sale on the US forums.
yellowmsp03.5
October 25th, 2006, 10:18 PM
thanks i will look there... if you see anything again think you could let me know? thanks
boxcarlx
October 26th, 2006, 07:33 AM
^ To come off topic a bit but doesn't OBX make a turbo manifold?
i remeber seeing them on Ebay, but who knows withthe garbage that you can find on there.
Scooter
October 26th, 2006, 07:43 AM
^ To come off topic a bit but doesn't OBX make a turbo manifold?
i remeber seeing them on Ebay, but who knows withthe garbage that you can find on there.
I've read some pretty nasty reviews of the OBX manifolds on the US board. Granted, they're not exactly known to be a wealth of RELIABLE information. But I tend to believe those stories. Bad fitment was among the top complaints, as well as cracking problems.
CrazyCaker
October 26th, 2006, 07:58 AM
^ cracking is the huge one, but I find a lot of stupid ppl expecting the mani to hold all the weight of the turbo by itself. A bracket to help support some of the weight would work wonders in many cases.
tekkie
October 26th, 2006, 10:43 AM
the thing is just using way to thin metal, if they beefed it up it would work so much better
but yeah if the turbo was supported it would probably work alot better
CrazyCaker
November 5th, 2006, 07:17 AM
I started working on my tranny last night, and ran into a few problems. First, I couldn't get the ball joint clamp bolt out since the bolt seems to be seized. I ended up disconnecting the tie-rod instead, and the strut from the hub. The shaft came out considerably easy from the tranny. My next problem was the shift linkage bolt! That bitch was so seized I had to end up using a punch on my air hammer to get the ***ker out!!
I'm just about to start working on it again this morning, I'm hoping the rest goes a bit smoother.
edit: btw, if you don't have air tools... don't bother attempting any work on the tranny!
Mike_Moss
November 5th, 2006, 11:15 AM
Shitty deal on the minor speedbumps in your project. I'm sure it'll go fine though.
edit: btw, if you don't have air tools... don't bother attempting any work on the tranny!I shall challenge this statement when I perform my install. :p
CrazyCaker
November 5th, 2006, 04:51 PM
Shitty deal on the minor speedbumps in your project. I'm sure it'll go fine though.
I shall challenge this statement when I perform my install. :p
Haha I wish you luck! Some of the 19mm and 17mm bolts were bitches even with the impact. An air rachet helps a ton too, not to much an air hammer for those special occassions :p
I managed to get the lsd in the tranny, and the new flywheel and clutch are on. I just have to put the tranny back on bolt everything back up. I'm having a problem getting the 2 side bolts back in to the tranny housing though, seems they are not catching on the inside :confused: I gave up for today because I had to watch my son at 3pm. I'm sure it's something trivial though.
kz9
November 5th, 2006, 06:01 PM
Trannys are no fun. That linkage bolt is a bitch.
tekkie
November 5th, 2006, 06:16 PM
that sucks Joe, mine came apart no problem at all which was nice
CrazyCaker
November 5th, 2006, 07:39 PM
that sucks Joe, mine came apart no problem at all which was nice
yeah must have been nice :rolleyes:
Any tips on wtf would be causing me problems with the 2 side bolts going back in? just when I figured I had everything done, and the problems out of the way I run into this one.
tekkie
November 5th, 2006, 08:33 PM
are you talking about the 2 that are on that bracket?
CrazyCaker
November 6th, 2006, 06:20 AM
are you talking about the 2 that are on that bracket?
no these two...
http://www.msprotege.com/members/CrazyCaker/side%20bolts.jpg
I think I figured it out, I"m going to have to reopen the casing to make sure everything is aligned properly, no big deal but still a pita.
tekkie
November 6th, 2006, 07:22 AM
iirc those are the 2 that bolt the gear casings in place so yeah its probably not lined up right :(
I think I put a screwdriver in both of them while I was putting it back together and then just pulled them and put the bolts back in
CrazyCaker
November 6th, 2006, 07:57 AM
iirc those are the 2 that bolt the gear casings in place so yeah its probably not lined up right :(
I think I put a screwdriver in both of them while I was putting it back together and then just pulled them and put the bolts back in
Yeah that's what their for, but I'm confused how you managed to put a screw driver though the holes and reassemble the casing? :confused: How can the case slid on while the screw drivers are there? That doesn't make sense to me. Am I missing something here?
MS MSP
November 6th, 2006, 10:20 AM
Trannys are no fun....
Waiting for Scooter or someone to jump on this......
kz9
November 6th, 2006, 10:39 AM
Yeah that's what their for, but I'm confused how you managed to put a screw driver though the holes and reassemble the casing? :confused: How can the case slid on while the screw drivers are there? That doesn't make sense to me. Am I missing something here?
The key is to line up the holes as close as possible to were they go. Then use a punch to move the bracket. I don't know why you are having so much trouble? They should not move that much when u put the housing on.
The bolt on the left screws in to that holder, but the one on the right IIRC does not screw into anything? It just goes into the middle of that clamp and helps keep it aligned?
SEE PIC
kz9
November 6th, 2006, 10:40 AM
Waiting for Scooter or someone to jump on this......
Only u swing that way buddy.....:p
CrazyCaker
November 6th, 2006, 10:55 AM
The key is to line up the holes as close as possible to were they go. Then use a punch to move the bracket. I don't know why you are having so much trouble? They should not move that much when u put the housing on.
The bolt on the left screws in to that holder, but the one on the right IIRC does not screw into anything? It just goes into the middle of that clamp and helps keep it aligned?
SEE PIC
It's probably because I was trying to rush everything. So far I've only spent 5-6 hrs working on everything, I figured I was doing pretty good :p
I'm going to burn one (maybe a few actually), and try to get everything back in this afternoon. I think the problem was that my "stuff" was starting to wear off by that point yesterday. ;)
CrazyCaker
November 6th, 2006, 11:00 AM
Did you guys change the races for the diff bearings? I looked at them and realized they seemed to be pressed in so I said ***k it. This is likely the cause of that bearing noise some ppl describe as tranny whine after they swap the diff.
kz9
November 6th, 2006, 01:13 PM
I did not change mine cause they were fine. Just look to see if they are nice and smooth.
Yeah, don't forget to keep topped up on that stuff, I works wonders. :p
And don't rush. I'm sure you'll get it.
Can't wait to see it done.
CrazyCaker
November 6th, 2006, 07:13 PM
Well, just as I thought it was something trivial (and obviously not enough "stuff" :p ). I had to fool around and get it to shift so that the clip thing would move up into position, and the other bracket thing that's threaded for the side bolt had to be aligned up properly.
Everything is back together now, but I haven't had a chance to test it out yet as I still got more things to do while the car is off the road.
CrazyCaker
November 8th, 2006, 08:17 AM
***king damn tranny!! :mad: I think I over torqued the damn locking nuts as I can't shift into 5th and reverse now. No more tranny work after I finish with this pos. Although getting the tranny back on was pretty simple compared to what some make it out to be. I didn't even have troubles with the driveshaft clearing the oil seal. I'm going to just crack open the top again while it's still on and replace the lock nuts, hopefully this will do the trick.
tekkie
November 8th, 2006, 08:37 AM
when your trying to get it in gear are you turning the linkage? otherwise you can just use 3 gears by putting the linkage in - out
CrazyCaker
November 8th, 2006, 08:42 AM
when your trying to get it in gear are you turning the linkage? otherwise you can just use 3 gears by putting the linkage in - out
The linkage is hooked back up yo. To make it even more interesting, I can't spin the drive shafts when I put it in what should be neutral :confused: . I swear if I have to take the bitch off again........ :mad:
tekkie
November 8th, 2006, 08:46 AM
when you say you cant sping the drive shaft are you talking about with it up on jack stands? cause if its not spinning you got some binding in there :(
lmao, didnt I tell you the tranny was fun :) it would be easy the second time but the first time baffled me for a while, its like a very dirty, heavy 3d puzzle lol
CrazyCaker
November 8th, 2006, 08:53 AM
when you say you cant sping the drive shaft are you talking about with it up on jack stands? cause if its not spinning you got some binding in there :(
lmao, didnt I tell you the tranny was fun :) it would be easy the second time but the first time baffled me for a while, its like a very dirty, heavy 3d puzzle lol
yeah I realize it's binding, I'm not pleased to say the least. I'm 99% sure I know what the problem is, and it involves shifting the forks/gears into the proper position, so in other words I have to open the mother***ker up again. :mad:
tekkie
November 8th, 2006, 08:57 AM
yeah unfortunetly it sounds that way, this crap is not fun to say the least :(
CrazyCaker
November 8th, 2006, 10:11 AM
I just talked to Steve (NSN) and he feels that it's just over toqueing of the lock nuts. This causes emense pressure on the sychros and other stuff underneath even though it may not appear to be. He went on to explain this could also cause the problem with neutral as well because it is not disengaging properly. I'm hoping he's right, and it was my first thought as well.
Mike_Moss
November 8th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Shitty deal, Joe.
Hopefully you get those torqued up properly with a torque wrench and everything's gravy!
CrazyCaker
November 8th, 2006, 10:25 AM
Shitty deal, Joe.
Hopefully you get those torqued up properly with a torque wrench and everything's gravy!
I'm hoping too, praying to the "Tranny God" actually :p . Supposedly they should only be tightened to 55ft/lb, I know they are just slightly more then that lol.
ESsedan01
November 8th, 2006, 10:33 AM
Why not just take it to work with you?
Doesn't Milton have a autoshop? Have some inmates do the grunt work.:p
CrazyCaker
November 8th, 2006, 10:39 AM
Why not just take it to work with you?
Doesn't Milton have a autoshop? Have some inmates do the grunt work.:p
Trust an inmate?! :eek: Hahaha, Never.
Mike_Moss
November 8th, 2006, 11:11 AM
I'm hoping too, praying to the "Tranny God" actually :p . Supposedly they should only be tightened to 55ft/lb, I know they are just slightly more then that lol.doubleyouthird
If you need a torque wrench, you know who carries high-quality JET tools. :)
Good luck!
CrazyCaker
November 8th, 2006, 11:16 AM
doubleyouthird
If you need a torque wrench, you know who carries high-quality JET tools. :)
Good luck!
lol, I have sets of torques already. ;)
+0nk4! yo
CrazyCaker
November 14th, 2006, 12:12 AM
after having the car apart for nearly 2 weeks I decided to try and start it today... all I'm getting is clicks behind the glove box. :mad: I'm going to take a closer look at the starter hopefully tomorrow and see what's up.
Mike_Moss
November 14th, 2006, 09:39 AM
Battery dead?
Scooter
November 14th, 2006, 09:47 AM
Didn't Kelan have the same problem when he tried to turn it over the first time after his install?
kz9
November 14th, 2006, 10:38 AM
Didn't Kelan have the same problem when he tried to turn it over the first time after his install?
Dead battery.....
kz9
November 14th, 2006, 10:40 AM
I just talked to Steve (NSN) and he feels that it's just over toqueing of the lock nuts. This causes emense pressure on the sychros and other stuff underneath even though it may not appear to be. He went on to explain this could also cause the problem with neutral as well because it is not disengaging properly. I'm hoping he's right, and it was my first thought as well.
I used a impact to put my locking nuts back on. I also had new ones. No problem.
CrazyCaker
November 14th, 2006, 01:43 PM
lmfao... everything is good. Terminal S was not hooked up to the starter. :o
The problem w/ 5th and reverse was a cracked sychro, likely due to me over tightening the lock nuts. Problem solved.
Bumble G
November 14th, 2006, 04:35 PM
no turbo yet right?
good thing you got the trans sorted out.
Mike_Moss
November 14th, 2006, 04:47 PM
It's running? Nice! How do you like two wheel drive? :)
CrazyCaker
November 14th, 2006, 04:55 PM
It's running? Nice! How do you like two wheel drive? :)
It's awesome! I should have done it a long time ago.
CrazyCaker
November 14th, 2006, 06:18 PM
no turbo yet right?
good thing you got the trans sorted out.
It's ready to go in, but I'd like to do the MicroTech install with your help first.
Bumble G
November 14th, 2006, 07:34 PM
It's ready to go in, but I'd like to do the MicroTech install with your help first.
yup yup
;)
red-i
November 14th, 2006, 08:14 PM
and joe.. i'll help you install your obx header on my car don't forget! you know.. i'm a nice guy like that.
CrazyCaker
March 21st, 2007, 07:23 AM
Seeing as I'll be starting the install (FINALLY!) once the weather warms up, I'll be actually updating this thread with a lot more pics and info.
two 12" FAL (S-Blade) fans P/N 30212, and AEM wb.
http://www.toprotege.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7212&d=1174479608
I'll be running these two fans in "puller" mode behind the rad on the engine side as I will have my oil/tranny cooler mounted on the front side of the rad.
Bumble G
March 21st, 2007, 10:37 AM
for that Microtech....
you gona install it before turbo to make sure everythings good?
or just pop it in at the same time then turn the key on the entire setup?
CrazyCaker
March 21st, 2007, 11:33 AM
for that Microtech....
you gona install it before turbo to make sure everythings good?
or just pop it in at the same time then turn the key on the entire setup?
I'll be installing the MT first. I'd ideally like to do it this weekend since it is looking to be nice out so far. If you're available to help, give me a call.
Bumble G
March 21st, 2007, 01:57 PM
crap dude... this weekend doesn't look good.
red-i
March 21st, 2007, 02:14 PM
you're just afraid of joe's air compressor
CrazyCaker
March 21st, 2007, 02:30 PM
you're just afraid of joe's air compressor
I think so too. :p
Bumble G
March 21st, 2007, 04:06 PM
you're just afraid of joe's air compressor
I still have nightmares.....:rolleyes:
no man...having a new kid is hard work. your weekends get filled up fast with stuff that you have to catch up on.
CrazyCaker
March 21st, 2007, 04:07 PM
no man...having a new kid is hard work. your weekends get filled up fast with stuff that you have to catch up on.
haha you don't need to tell me about that! :p
CrazyCaker
April 22nd, 2007, 02:30 PM
Today I got around to installing my oil/tranny cooler, two 12" FAL slim fans, FMIC, and some of the piping. I ended up fitting my oil/tranny cooler between the rad and a/c condenser, there's a lot of room between there. The reason I couldn't mount it in the front was not due to fitment, but because I had to move the cooling loop to behind the latch support bracket in order to push my FMIC all the way back so that the bumper would fit back on without modification.
Pics later.
yellowmsp03.5
April 22nd, 2007, 02:59 PM
good job joe, good to see it in progress, looking forward to pics
im done school and have this whole week off (except mon) if you need any help, i will actually be free now haha
CrazyCaker
April 22nd, 2007, 03:04 PM
If your free tuesday, swing by. It's suppose to be nice out. I'm exhausted right now, working in the sun is killer. I spent 5 hrs yesterday installing my struts and then most of today doing the above stuff.
red-i
April 22nd, 2007, 03:06 PM
you mean working in the sun while blazed is killer, right?
good stuff joe, your car is gonna be nifty.
yellowmsp03.5
April 22nd, 2007, 03:08 PM
ya i think i should be ok to come on tuesday.. ill let you know though
CrazyCaker
April 30th, 2007, 06:12 AM
The install is coming along VERY nicely so far. Today I have to figure out how the ***k I'm going to run the million or so wires from my MicroTech, WB, Boost gauge, EGT gauge, Oil Temp gauge, and some other random ones through the damn'd firewall!!? I also have to go and pick up my front bumper and sides from the shop today and reinstall them as well.
If anyone took today off (or has it off) and needs to install something or would like to help, you're more then welcome to drop by my place. We can lend a hand to each other when required, and sample stuff while enjoying beer. ;)
weesh
April 30th, 2007, 06:16 AM
If anyone took today off (or has it off) and needs to install something or would like to help, you're more then welcome to drop by my place. We can lend a hand to each other when required, and sample stuff while enjoying beer. ;)
I'm up for it, after 10:30am. How do i find you again?
CrazyCaker
April 30th, 2007, 06:27 AM
I'm up for it, after 10:30am. How do i find you again?
PM sent.
Aitch
April 30th, 2007, 10:19 PM
Joe I did the same thing today, all day in the sun swapping to Scott's Mazdaspeed manifold. Beautiful day to work! Can't wait to see your car dude.
CrazyCaker
April 30th, 2007, 10:22 PM
w3rd Weesh! The "stuff" was good yo!!
So I managed to finally finish up installing all my gauges today and fit a shitload of wires through the firewall for them. I've still been too lazy to take pics, but the car will be ready for reveal soon enuff. :D
Pro2nr
April 30th, 2007, 10:23 PM
can't wait to see this thing.
RicecookerP5
April 30th, 2007, 10:34 PM
ditto
CrazyCaker
May 4th, 2007, 02:40 PM
Started the MicroTech install... hoping the car will start first try tomorrow! The install is actually fairly simple, and I ended up using bullet connections (insulated w/ e-tape) incase I ever need to reconnect the stock ECU or something else.
Bumble G
May 5th, 2007, 10:30 AM
Started the MicroTech install... hoping the car will start first try tomorrow! The install is actually fairly simple, and I ended up using bullet connections (insulated w/ e-tape) incase I ever need to reconnect the stock ECU or something else.
so how did it go?
I know you wanted help on that.
I havn't had any spare time.
Being a dad is hard work.
CrazyCaker
May 5th, 2007, 10:40 AM
It's in, except for a few connections I left until last. I haven't tried starting it yet... need to find a laptop I can use, mine is fubar'd.
kz9
May 5th, 2007, 02:39 PM
If u need a hand next weekend, I can come up......
CrazyCaker
May 5th, 2007, 04:24 PM
If u need a hand next weekend, I can come up......
Thanks for the offer! Depending on how things go I might have to take you up on the offer. I have very little time during the week to work on things, and right now I am running into a few slight probs but nothing too big.
Anyone know of a place in the firewall on the passenger side that I can use to go through with a SHIT load of wires? I used the hole just above and to the left of the clutch pedal for a ton of other wires already.
macklum
May 5th, 2007, 06:00 PM
Anyone know of a place in the firewall on the passenger side that I can use to go through with a SHIT load of wires? I used the hole just above and to the left of the clutch pedal for a ton of other wires already. I dont know of any hole that you can use . You maybe forced to drill a new one and grommet it for all the extra wires
tekkie
May 5th, 2007, 06:54 PM
Joe there is another hole around the middle somewhere I am trying to recall where though, I know I ran some wires in there but the hole is not that big.
pics biatch :p
CrazyCaker
May 5th, 2007, 08:07 PM
Joe there is another hole around the middle somewhere I am trying to recall where though, I know I ran some wires in there but the hole is not that big.
pics biatch :p
I ended up running them through the same hole as the main harness, lots of extra room there.
I took some pics, I'll post them later tonight.
kz9
May 5th, 2007, 08:55 PM
I had to drill 4 1/2'' holes to feed all of my shit though. Just make sure to use gromets and some heat proof silicone to make sure its sealed.
Just let me know by Friday if u need a hand. I also can bring my Laptop.
CrazyCaker
May 6th, 2007, 06:14 AM
Couple of pics.... I haven't installed the mani and rest of the piping since that is the "easy" stuff which I will leave until last.
CrazyCaker
May 6th, 2007, 06:14 AM
one more of the gauges and shit...
CrazyCaker
May 6th, 2007, 12:33 PM
Finally finished up all the wiring bullshit! I'm now moving onto the mani, turbo, wg, and downpipe install.
If anyone is bored today and would like to lend a hand, feel free to give me a call (416-931-XCEL) ;)
CrazyCaker
May 7th, 2007, 08:52 AM
Got the mani and other stuff on, and as expected it only took a few mins. Just need to get three 2.5" -> 3" couplers, fittings for the oil feed and return, fittings for the vaccum block, and drill and tap the crank support plate for the oil return!
I also ended up wiring some additional aux inputs/outputs to the MicroTech to allow it to data log my WB and make adjustments for when the A/C and other loads on the alternator are present. I'm also going to wiring up the VICS control to it as well so that I can adjust when it kicks in or disable/enable it completely whenever I feel like it.
More pics coming soon.
Mike_Moss
May 7th, 2007, 10:22 AM
Looks like it's really coming along, Joe!
PM me, I have all of your couplers, clamps and everything you ordered! :)
MS MSP
May 7th, 2007, 10:55 AM
I think you need more gauges Joe.......lol!
Looks cool...can't wait to see this beast on the road.
CrazyCaker
May 7th, 2007, 11:38 AM
Anyone happen to know wtf the threaded port in the turbo in the pic below is for?
http://www.toprotege.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5111&d=1142949951
I was planning on just plugging it with a bolt if it's not useful for anything.
Myk
May 7th, 2007, 01:36 PM
This P5 should either fly or blow right up! LOL!
CrazyCaker
May 7th, 2007, 02:22 PM
This P5 should either fly or blow right up! LOL!
it'll blow up, that's the plan (running 9psi to start). I've got the spare motor being rebuilt with forged goodies. ;)
Bumble G
May 7th, 2007, 02:24 PM
Anyone happen to know wtf the threaded port in the turbo in the pic below is for?
I was planning on just plugging it with a bolt if it's not useful for anything.
NAAAAWWWWZZZZZZ!!!!!!!
that'll make sure it blows up REAL good.
Junior
May 7th, 2007, 02:36 PM
OMG, this thread is still going? ... It's been like 4 years since this project started. Gawd I hope it's done before the summer.
(of 2009)
CrazyCaker
May 7th, 2007, 02:58 PM
OMG, this thread is still going? ... It's been like 4 years since this project started. Gawd I hope it's done before the summer.
(of 2009)
Thread was started Mar 06 guy, geez learn to check yo :rolleyes: And yes it will be finished likely by this weekend, I have a few other things to do while it's off the road as well.
macklum
May 7th, 2007, 03:01 PM
Anyone happen to know wtf the threaded port in the turbo in the pic below is for?
http://www.toprotege.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5111&d=1142949951
I was planning on just plugging it with a bolt if it's not useful for anything.
Isnt that were the wastre gate accuator gets it signal for how much boos the turbo is making . you need a line from there to the nipple on the accuator
CrazyCaker
May 7th, 2007, 03:03 PM
Isnt that were the wastre gate accuator gets it signal for how much boos the turbo is making . you need a line from there to the nipple on the accuator
I think you're right, but I haven't seen it like this before. Garrett turbos don't have it like that.
Aitch
May 7th, 2007, 03:35 PM
My T25 had a spot there too, and I used it for the boost signal to the wastegate actuator.
yellowmsp03.5
May 7th, 2007, 03:53 PM
ya joe that fitting is for the boost actuator. you should need it since you are going to running straight to your external wg from your source. i had one on my turbo and i plugged mine also
CrazyCaker
May 7th, 2007, 04:16 PM
Thanks guys.
***k, right now I'm trying to fit this gd HUGE ass turbo in!!! It's tight as hell. I think I need to remove the bracket where the plugs for the O2 sensors are since it is hitting against it.
CrazyCaker
May 8th, 2007, 06:47 AM
Wow, it's ***king unbelievable that ppl would pay ~$45 for a single bulk head fitting!! I decided to get my oil return (and a longer spare oil feed) lines done the "proper" way and had my dad crimp on the connections. Best part is I saved myself quite a bit of cash this way since it was free :)
Bumble G
May 8th, 2007, 06:48 AM
Wow, it's ***king unbelievable that ppl would pay ~$45 for a single bulk head fitting!! I decided to get my oil return (and a longer spare oil feed) lines done the "proper" way and had my dad crimp on the connections. Best part is I saved myself quite a bit of cash this way since it was free :)
nice.....always do it right, or don't do it at all.
you could have ghetto'd it on with some duct tape :p
CrazyCaker
May 8th, 2007, 06:50 AM
nice.....always do it right, or don't do it at all.
you could have ghetto'd it on with some duct tape :p
lol, the thought did cross my mind :p But seriously, it blows my mind that those shitty twist on connections are so expensive.
Bumble G
May 8th, 2007, 06:55 AM
lol, the thought did cross my mind :p But seriously, it blows my mind that those shitty twist on connections are so expensive.
"twist on" for an all important oil line.....hmmmmm
I bet you could rent the crimp tool, or go to a place to have em crimped on for the same or cheaper.
CrazyCaker
May 8th, 2007, 06:57 AM
"twist on" for an all important oil line.....hmmmmm
I bet you could rent the crimp tool, or go to a place to have em crimped on for the same or cheaper.
You likely could, but the twist on ones also come in pretty anodized colours and stuff :p
thekid
May 8th, 2007, 07:26 AM
$45 for a twist on annodized fitting? yikes... when I did my lines they were like a small faction of that!
CrazyCaker
May 8th, 2007, 07:32 AM
$45 for a twist on annodized fitting? yikes... when I did my lines they were like a small faction of that!
for 45° -10AN to 1/2", yes it was $45.
CrazyCaker
May 8th, 2007, 11:56 AM
The turbo is so bloody huge I had to rotate the compressor housing just to get it to fit in without hitting anything.
I now have everything I needed and once I finish changing the tranny oil, engine oil, coolant, spark plugs, and a few other maintance things I'll be ready to fire it up and drive it over to an exhaust shop to get a new midpipe flange to proper mate up with my downpipe. Also need my wg dump tube welded to the exhaust so that it's not dumping to the atmosphere, and another bung or two added to the midpipe.
red-i
May 8th, 2007, 12:03 PM
haha joe wants bungholes.
tekkie
May 8th, 2007, 12:03 PM
for 45° -10AN to 1/2", yes it was $45.
yup they are crazy expensive, I spent hundreads of dollars on fittings for the fuel & oil lines :(
CrazyCaker
May 10th, 2007, 11:49 AM
Why is it so ***king hard to find a wastegate gasket?!!?!? ***K!! Doesn't anyone carry them?? :mad: JRP - None in stock. PI - have to order.... This is crazy.
thekid
May 10th, 2007, 12:04 PM
atpturbo.com
CrazyCaker
May 10th, 2007, 12:50 PM
atpturbo.com
Yeah I know, but I'd rather have it today not in a couple weeks so that the car can be on the road this weekend. :(
CrazyCaker
May 13th, 2007, 08:42 AM
Wish me luck... hopefully going to be trying to start it up today!
Got a few things to finish up first though. Need to install a temp sensor in one of the coolant lines for the MicroTech, and finish tapping the crank support plate for the oil return line.
TokyoRacer
May 13th, 2007, 08:47 AM
w00t, take video!
red-i
May 13th, 2007, 09:31 AM
g'luck joey!!!!! video, pics etc... do it....
Pro2nr
May 13th, 2007, 10:34 AM
Good luck bud
Mike_Moss
May 13th, 2007, 11:40 PM
So how'd it go?
You get that axle issue sorted too?
cruisinblackp5
May 14th, 2007, 03:01 AM
Updates, updates. Hopefully it went well. Are you going to tune on a dyno or the road? I'm looking forward to seeing it soon.
CrazyCaker
May 14th, 2007, 08:36 AM
I ended up doing some more stuff yesterday and still never got around to trying to start it yet lol. I replaced my thermostat housing with a straight one, and then realized my lower rad hose is now 1" too short! I'll be fixing that today.
I'll be doing my own road tune for now with my WB and data logging of the MicroTech. I'll be eventually getting it dyno tuned though, but not likely until ALL my build is complete.
Edit: Oh yeah, also went out to FS yesterday and picked up a new laptop :p Just need to get a USB -> DB9 adapter now so that it can connect to the MicroTech.
CrazyCaker
May 14th, 2007, 08:44 AM
OH yeah! Almost forgot... The ***king turbo ended up being so big that the compressor housing is practically touching my clutch bleeding screw!! I had to clock the compressor housing, and remove the bracket attached to the tranny that holds the plugs for the o2 sensors just to get the biotch in! I then needed to buy a ***king $55 90° silicone coupler to come off the turbo to my IC piping.
kz9
May 14th, 2007, 01:58 PM
Ahhhhhhh..... the joy of going turbo.... lol
CrazyCaker
May 15th, 2007, 09:46 AM
Ahhhhhhh..... the joy of going turbo.... lol
haha yeah tell me about it. it's all worth it in the end though... but does it ever really "end"? :p
CrazyCaker
May 15th, 2007, 09:54 AM
I'll try to update this tonight with some pics.
Yesterday I bought an oil catch can for the line going from the valve cover to the intake. This is definitely required for turbo'd vehicles! The amount of blow-by oil in that line is pretty considerable when a turbo is added. I ended up drilling a hole in the rubber neck of my intake filter for the temp sensor instead of just tucking it somewhere or letting it hang.
Aitch
May 15th, 2007, 10:35 AM
^^ very true about the catch can. I added one a couple of weeks ago, its getting a fair bit of oil in it. I'm going to add another check valve (PCV valve) on the line leading to the intake manifold because I don't like the idea of the catch can being pressurized under boost too.
CrazyCaker
May 15th, 2007, 10:37 AM
^^ very true about the catch can. I added one a couple of weeks ago, its getting a fair bit of oil in it. I'm going to add another check valve (PCV valve) on the line leading to the intake manifold because I don't like the idea of the catch can being pressurized under boost too.
Yeah good idea, I changed mine to the one from the supercharged Millenia.
Aitch
May 15th, 2007, 11:06 AM
I've got that one already, but its on the line that leads from the valve cover to the catch can, which stops the top of the crank case from being pressurized under boost. But the catch can is still pressurized from the line running to the intake manifold, so that's where I'd like to add another check valve.
CrazyCaker
May 15th, 2007, 11:19 AM
I've got that one already, but its on the line that leads from the valve cover to the catch can, which stops the top of the crank case from being pressurized under boost. But the catch can is still pressurized from the line running to the intake manifold, so that's where I'd like to add another check valve.
Ok you mean the line running from the catch can to the intake pipe right? You can simply add a check valve (small white one) to stop that. I have one already, I'll get you the part # once I'm home.
Aitch
May 15th, 2007, 11:39 AM
Yep, that's what I meant. Was planning to raid the shelves at Canadian Tire this weekend.
CrazyCaker
May 15th, 2007, 11:46 AM
lol. you know you could just leave the line off altogether from going back to the intake piping.... just tell the cops if they inspect you that the catch can is part of the intake system LMAO!! I'm sure they'll fall for it.
CrazyCaker
May 18th, 2007, 02:03 PM
As requested here's some pics... sorry quality is shit, they're off my Treo.
Scooter
May 18th, 2007, 02:14 PM
^ Dude....somebody tied a not in that manifold.
kidding. Looks awesome. Can't wait to see it in person.
CrazyCaker
May 18th, 2007, 02:17 PM
I need to find a solution for the shitty looking coolant bottle. It looks like ass, especially with 1/2 of my engine bay now being ceramic finish.
Scooter
May 18th, 2007, 02:19 PM
I need to find a solution for the shitty looking coolant bottle. It looks like ass, especially with 1/2 of my engine bay now being ceramic finish.
why not use one of the ebay (or name brand) catch-cans?
yellowmsp03.5
May 18th, 2007, 02:22 PM
get the greddy one or i think perrin also has one... thats what im doing after i have my car running good enough to spend some money elsewhere
CrazyCaker
May 18th, 2007, 02:23 PM
why not use one of the ebay (or name brand) catch-cans?
That's a possibility. I already have a red one (Ebay) for the ventilation from the valve cover, but another one wouldn't hurt I guess.
thekid
May 20th, 2007, 11:32 AM
Is there a particular person on Ebay that sells the catch cans relatively cheap. I can't get over how damn expensive such a simple thing is if you try to get a brand name!
CrazyCaker
May 20th, 2007, 11:52 AM
Is there a particular person on Ebay that sells the catch cans relatively cheap. I can't get over how damn expensive such a simple thing is if you try to get a brand name!
I got it from this guy...
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Oil-Reservoir-Catch-Can-Tank-Miata-Mx-5-RX-7-RX-8-RED_W0QQitemZ280115501577QQihZ018QQcategoryZ6778QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
He's got a 100% rating and ppl seem to be very happy with his products. I got my tracking # last week, so it should be at my door Tuesday hopefully. Came to $54 CAD to the door and was shipped USPS.
CrazyCaker
May 20th, 2007, 11:55 AM
why not use one of the ebay (or name brand) catch-cans?
There's a problem with using a catch can as a coolant overflow which I just realized.... The drain has to be at the bottom of the catch can, whereas most of the cans on the market are not like that.
Aitch
May 20th, 2007, 01:08 PM
I ended up making my own from bits at CT, including an aluminum drink container. I'm planning on replicating it (with the fittings at the base instead though) for a coolant overflow tank.
cruisinblackp5
May 21st, 2007, 05:33 AM
Check a company called Canton, they have lots of different kinds and aren't priced too high and the quality is really good. Just search the different models, I don't think they have one for the pro but lots of other cars.
CrazyCaker
May 22nd, 2007, 08:09 AM
^ Good info, I'll look into them.
I'll be getting my car back from Zoro today. I ended up taking it there Saturday after waiting over 2 ***king hrs for a flat bed from CAA! First CAA sent a regular tow truck, and the driver refused to even attempt to load my car on it saying he didn't want to chance anything and that he could tell I had a lot invested in the car (:p), atleast he was honest. So, now my car is in Jack's hands and he's promised to do a great job on it (I asked him not to let the pony tail dude touch it ;) ).
Pics to follow tonight.
CrazyCaker
May 22nd, 2007, 08:13 AM
On a side note... I am NOT IMPRESSED at all with the quality of the paint from Seneca Auto Body!! :mad: I'm honestly quite surprised that many of you recommend them. The paint is flaking, peeling and just straight up ASS! I will be taking my sides back to them to have them re-done since I haven't even installed them yet. As for the front bumper, I will be doing a full inspection on it when I pick up my car tonight.
thekid
May 22nd, 2007, 08:16 AM
Did they put a flex agent in there paint?
CrazyCaker
May 22nd, 2007, 08:32 AM
Did they put a flex agent in there paint?
When I dropped off the parts Robert told me that they do. I specifically asked him to make sure they were "prep'd" properly and that I didn't care if it cost extra for a great job to be done on them. I was charged $400 for a front bumper, and the pair of sides... honestly at this point I feel as if I was ripped off because I could have gotten this quality job for half the price somewhere else!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Edit: Hell, I could have even done them myself in our spray booth!!
CrazyCaker
May 23rd, 2007, 08:23 AM
Props to Zoro for a wicked job! :D
I couldn't have asked for better from them, and the price was extremely reasonable. I had them modify my midpipe by shortening it, replacing the flange to a 3 bolt to mate up with my downpipe, add two o2 bungs into my downpipe, and modify my wastegate dump tube and weld it into the downpipe. Total out the door $285. :) I was very impressed by the job especially on the downpipe (wastegate and o2 bungs) seeing as it was ceramic coated. The guy that did the work told me he carefully grinded off the coating in the areas where he had to weld, the result is picture perfect! The guy who did the work was a younger guy (he did have a slight pony tail, but there was also an older guy with a long pony tail who didn't touch my car :p ), but I would definitely let this guy do more work on my car... in fact he'll be modifying my EGR for me to make it work (more or less lol).
kz9
May 24th, 2007, 03:35 PM
Did he use SS rod or wire? If not watch for stress cracks at the weld edges. Just a heads up
Props to Zoro for a wicked job! :D
I couldn't have asked for better from them, and the price was extremely reasonable. I had them modify my midpipe by shortening it, replacing the flange to a 3 bolt to mate up with my downpipe, add two o2 bungs into my downpipe, and modify my wastegate dump tube and weld it into the downpipe. Total out the door $285. :) I was very impressed by the job especially on the downpipe (wastegate and o2 bungs) seeing as it was ceramic coated. The guy that did the work told me he carefully grinded off the coating in the areas where he had to weld, the result is picture perfect! The guy who did the work was a younger guy (he did have a slight pony tail, but there was also an older guy with a long pony tail who didn't touch my car :p ), but I would definitely let this guy do more work on my car... in fact he'll be modifying my EGR for me to make it work (more or less lol).
CrazyCaker
May 24th, 2007, 03:38 PM
Did he use SS rod or wire? If not watch for stress cracks at the weld edges. Just a heads up
Pretty sure from the looks of it he used SS rod. I just finished all the inital setup on the MicroTech last night. It was a bit confusing at first, but after you get use to the software it's a breeze. I'm heading home now to top up the fluids, and fire it up and take it for a joy ride. :D
CrazyCaker
May 25th, 2007, 08:09 AM
Omgwtfbbq!!! :eek:
This thing is a beast!! :D I'm running 8psi right now, I nearly crapped myself on the first run down the street!! :D :D :D Managed to blow off my wastegate vac line and eventually had to clamp it on. The BOV is ***king LOUD! I'm debating if I want to reroute it and run it as a BPV just to reduce the heat it's going at attract from the popo.
Oh... did I mention that the car started first turn of the key :cool:
I need to get the plumping hooked up to my oil cooler!!!! Right now I am hitting temps of ~250 after some spirited driving.
My boost gauge also decided to just stop working on the way in to work this morning. Going to check the vac line at lunch.
macklum
May 25th, 2007, 08:26 AM
Nice to see you got it up ands running ,how about some new engine pics please
cruisinblackp5
May 25th, 2007, 08:29 AM
That's sweet. Keep this updated. Are you keeping it @ 8psi? How's traction? lol I'm impressed that it started first turn, that's a lot of work. Well done
CrazyCaker
May 25th, 2007, 08:33 AM
That's sweet. Keep this updated. Are you keeping it @ 8psi? How's traction? lol I'm impressed that it started first turn, that's a lot of work. Well done
I'm keeping it at 8psi on this motor (stock internals), but the built block will be atleast double that :p
I was honestly very surprised it started up first try! I had a small audience watching which put the pressure on me, but my skills prevailed ;) Now I just have to get my AFRs straightened out. They are all over the place right now, anything from 10.0 to 17.4 :p
Traction is a bit nuts through to 3rd, but laying off the gas a bit helps a lot.
CrazyCaker
May 25th, 2007, 08:37 AM
Nice to see you got it up ands running ,how about some new engine pics please
Engine pics will be up shortly. I am installing my oil catch can after work, and will then snap a few.
Scooter
May 25th, 2007, 08:37 AM
nice. Glad to hear everything worked out. Can't wait to see / hear / touch it :p
tekkie
May 25th, 2007, 08:41 AM
good stuff Joe :)
cruisinblackp5
May 25th, 2007, 08:49 AM
Wow, 17.4 is crazy, I hope that's all on low end. Good work and try to keep out of it until you tune it a bit.
CrazyCaker
May 25th, 2007, 09:09 AM
Wow, 17.4 is crazy, I hope that's all on low end. Good work and try to keep out of it until you tune it a bit.
Yeah it is mostly, I'm getting 12-14 in boost for the most part. Highway driving just became a whole lot more fun too :D
CrazyCaker
May 25th, 2007, 09:26 AM
I'm still running stock injectors right now. Should I bother installing the 440s or not since I'll be running 8psi?
tekkie
May 25th, 2007, 10:23 AM
I would say no right now, its not worth the extra hassle
CrazyCaker
May 25th, 2007, 10:25 AM
I would say no right now, its not worth the extra hassle
That's what I figured, but I wanted another opinion as well.
When my wastegate vac line came off the first time, I though I was hitting fuel cut or something at first lol.
red-i
May 25th, 2007, 12:46 PM
holy crap that's awesome news joe! you gotta take me for a boot when i pick up that cell phone from ya!
CrazyCaker
May 25th, 2007, 12:48 PM
holy crap that's awesome news joe! you gotta take me for a boot when i pick up that cell phone from ya!
Fo' sure guy. :)
kz9
May 25th, 2007, 02:18 PM
Great to hear Joe! That first pull is a kick-in-the-ass. lol
As for the Oil temp 250!!! Holy crap! I be plumbin the cooler in for sure soon. I took Tekkie's advice and zip tied all my vac lines and nothin popon off yet. Are u using a LC-1 from Inovate for ur wideband? If so, invest $300 and get the LMA-3 datalogger. I have it and it is great! Makes tunning a snap. (unless u can datalog on the Microtech?)
It has a G-force sensor also which can be used like a Dyno. If the G's go up more power.
What about EGT's? I'm gettin like 1300 at WOT. And cursin around town its at about 800. Also my heat wrap is havin an affect on the temp readin.
AFR's I found that 11.5 is makin a good deal of power and keepin it safe, from detonation at WOT. and 12.2 at POT.
CrazyCaker
May 25th, 2007, 02:28 PM
I have an AEM wideband. The MicroTech does also have datalogging, so I don't need anything else.
My EGTs are basically the same as yours, but I haven't run much at WOT yet due to not having any tuning done yet. I have just been doing a few short FUN bursts of boost here and there for now.
I tried zip tying the vac lines, but I find they don't get tight enough. The extra small hose clamps work perfectly though.
CrazyCaker
May 25th, 2007, 02:54 PM
To anyone thinking of getting an ems, I can not recommdend the MicroTech high enough! It is fanastic!! It still seems weird to me that I'm running my car without a MAF or any o2 sensors hooked up lmao. Although the wiring and additional water temp sensor hook up is somewhat a bitch, and extremely time consuming, in the end it's all definitely worth it!
Mike_Moss
May 25th, 2007, 03:02 PM
Congrats on getting the car running!
You're running a MAP sensor I take it?
CrazyCaker
May 25th, 2007, 03:08 PM
You're running a MAP sensor I take it?
Yes, MT has an onboard MAP sensor.
I would love to see more members here running the MT! I'm going to start posting my maps here in a seperate thread as soon as I start the tuning process.
CrazyCaker
May 28th, 2007, 07:54 AM
New prob now. Fans are not turning on. I think it has something to do with the settings on the MicroTech, but I will be changing the thermostat anyways since it has never been done before.
Other then that, I adjusted the fuel maps and now I'm running a lil better (still trying to get use to the MT software), only hitting 10.2-15.4 now which is a lot better then the 17s I was touching before.
Even with the bad tune this thing pulls like a monster! :D Those who visited on the weekend can attest to that ;) Scott and I were talking about making a vid (*Of our cars!) next time he drops by for a visit, so hopefully we can make that happen soon.
*Edit: Thought I'd clear that up so members like our friend Ricecooker here don't get too excited about the wrong thing.
red-i
May 28th, 2007, 08:30 AM
duuuuude. your car is fast. wow.
and also.. i hate you.. my car feels so damn slow now.
RicecookerP5
May 28th, 2007, 08:32 AM
...
Even with the bad tune this thing pulls like a monster! :D Those who visited on the weekend can attest to that ;) Scott and I were talking about making a vid next time he drops by for a visit, so hopefully we can make that happen soon.
that sounds sooo homo
CrazyCaker
May 28th, 2007, 08:35 AM
that sounds sooo homo
Of course to YOU it would, homo. :rolleyes:
Scooter
May 28th, 2007, 08:44 AM
LOL....I didn't even notice that. Good catch Christian. Damn...I'm slippin'! :p
RicecookerP5
May 28th, 2007, 10:38 AM
Of course to YOU it would, homo. :rolleyes:
whatever. give me the video when it's done so I can sell it to Ian. :p
yellowmsp03.5
May 28th, 2007, 03:09 PM
ya your car is running good and pullin hard. good job buddy it all looked good under the hood.
btw my fan isn't turning either... and it is wired perfectly i have checked many times... my car isn't over heating but my fan isn't turning. my acces fan is coming on and going off (wasn't before) but the main fan still won't spin
CrazyCaker
May 28th, 2007, 03:14 PM
^ That's weird. I just thought of checking the fuses as well, maybe the FAL fans are drawing more amps? I could have sworn they were coming on before because I checked to make sure they were wired up in puller mode to make sure.
tekkie
May 28th, 2007, 03:18 PM
what the microtech set to come on at? set it on always if you can and see what happens then I know on the AEM i can do that
CrazyCaker
May 28th, 2007, 03:23 PM
what the microtech set to come on at? set it on always if you can and see what happens then I know on the AEM i can do that
I have it at 97° or 99° right now I believe. I pretty sure I can turn it always on, I was going to do that today after work but I still want to make it work "properly".
tekkie
May 28th, 2007, 03:27 PM
^ yeah but at least then you will know if its working at all, or maybe I missed something and you already know it works
just put a switch to the battery lol
thekid
May 29th, 2007, 07:37 AM
I have it at 97° or 99° right now I believe. I pretty sure I can turn it always on, I was going to do that today after work but I still want to make it work "properly".
Celsius? If so I wouldn't necessarily expect them to be coming on that often.. when I'm running I'm normally running between 180-190F and only going up to 210F after a long hard run and come to a stop do the temps rise to 210 which is roughly 99C.
CrazyCaker
May 29th, 2007, 07:46 AM
^ Yes that's in celsius. I noticed last night that the driver's side fan was coming on (it wasn't before). The passenger side is the AC fan, but I think I'm going to wire it to come on as well to give that lil extra help.
CrazyCaker
May 30th, 2007, 08:23 AM
No more over heating probs. :)
Thinking of upping the boost to 10-11psi now! This shit is addictive!! Luckily I've got the spare motor LMAO!!! :p
thekid
May 30th, 2007, 08:30 AM
Luckily I've got the spare motor LMAO!!! :p
You rebuilt it already? :eek:
Scooter
May 30th, 2007, 08:30 AM
No more over heating probs. :)
Thinking of upping the boost to 10-11psi now! This shit is addictive!! Luckily I've got the spare motor LMAO!!! :p
I'll start counting the days.....
:p
CrazyCaker
May 30th, 2007, 08:38 AM
You rebuilt it already? :eek:
haha not yet, but it's gonna start within the next week or so! :)
CrazyCaker
May 30th, 2007, 08:39 AM
I'll start counting the days.....
:p
If this current motor holds up until the rebuild is ready, I'm gonna crank it to 20psi just to see what happens :p
Scooter
May 30th, 2007, 08:48 AM
If this current motor holds up until the rebuild is ready, I'm gonna crank it to 20psi just to see what happens :p
I can tell you what is gonna' happen. I think we all can :p
ESsedan01
May 30th, 2007, 08:56 AM
You better have a video camera handy cause that's going to be a priceless moment.:p
tekkie
May 30th, 2007, 09:24 AM
If this current motor holds up until the rebuild is ready, I'm gonna crank it to 20psi just to see what happens :p
I will drive up to see that lol
CrazyCaker
May 30th, 2007, 09:29 AM
I will drive up to see that lol
lmao, any bets that it'll blow the very first pass down my street? :p (btw, my neighbours already think I'm nuts and don't seem to think very highly of me using our street for tuning purposes LOL! :p :p )
Scooter
May 30th, 2007, 09:30 AM
lmao, any bets that it'll blow the very first pass down my street? :p (btw, my neighbours already think I'm nuts and don't seem to think very highly of me using our street for tuning purposes LOL! :p :p )
Tell your neighbours that you don't like them using your street for drug dealing purposes and call it even :p
yellowmsp03.5
May 30th, 2007, 09:31 AM
hahhaha me and you think so alike joe haha
yellowmsp03.5
May 30th, 2007, 09:32 AM
even i get the bad look going through your streets now after taking you for a rip... so next time im going through there redlining it with my cutout open
:D
CrazyCaker
May 30th, 2007, 09:35 AM
even i get the bad look going through your streets now after taking you for a rip... so next time im going through there redlining it with my cutout open
:D
Didn't you already do that when you where over last time?! :p
ESsedan01
May 30th, 2007, 09:36 AM
Tell your neighbours that you don't like them using your street for drug dealing purposes and call it even :p
Aren't we still talking about Joe??:confused: :D
CrazyCaker
May 30th, 2007, 09:37 AM
Tell your neighbours that you don't like them using your street for drug dealing purposes and call it even :p
LMAO!!! Let's just say "someone" made a few calls and those ***kers no longer live there. ;)
tekkie
May 30th, 2007, 09:37 AM
lmao, any bets that it'll blow the very first pass down my street? :p (btw, my neighbours already think I'm nuts and don't seem to think very highly of me using our street for tuning purposes LOL! :p :p )
it might last a few passes, I say take it to the track and blow it up there :) just make sure someone drives a flatbed truck to bring you home :p
tekkie
May 30th, 2007, 09:38 AM
also remember once the things blows up your not going to have any control so doing it on your street is probably not a great idea ;)
ESsedan01
May 30th, 2007, 09:39 AM
Can't see the neighbours appreciating the oil slick you lay down after the motor lets go either.:p
CrazyCaker
May 30th, 2007, 09:41 AM
Can't see the neighbours appreciating the oil slick you lay down after the motor lets go either.:p
hahaha, yeah and I'm sure the track officals will :rolleyes: :p
thekid
May 30th, 2007, 09:48 AM
also remember once the things blows up your not going to have any control so doing it on your street is probably not a great idea ;)
Doing it at a drag strip wouldn't be smart then either, they're lined with concrete walls!
yellowmsp03.5
May 30th, 2007, 09:51 AM
ya but you cant kill the concrete walls like you can kill a little kid....
or i forgot, joe likes to rip down at like 12am redlining it.
and yes i have already done the open cutout redline but ILL DO IT AGAIN (said like a threat) :D
thekid
May 30th, 2007, 09:54 AM
ya but you cant kill the concrete walls like you can kill a little kid....
I wasn't suggesting he do it on his street either... there is no good place to spill a ton of oil... do it at a track lapping day and you'll piss off everyone else there...
CrazyCaker
May 30th, 2007, 09:57 AM
ya but you cant kill the concrete walls like you can kill a little kid....
or i forgot, joe likes to rip down at like 12am redlining it.
and yes i have already done the open cutout redline but ILL DO IT AGAIN (said like a threat) :D
When you decide to come by and pick up your sunglasses, DO IT! :p Just wait till I come to your neck of the woods (literally hahaha :p )
yellowmsp03.5
May 30th, 2007, 10:05 AM
hahaha ya man its been the sunniest days of the year and i dont have my ***king glasses!!! ill be by soon, maybe this weekend or something.. ill bring my camera then and we'll go for a drive ;)
tekkie
May 30th, 2007, 10:10 AM
I wasn't suggesting he do it on his street either... there is no good place to spill a ton of oil... do it at a track lapping day and you'll piss off everyone else there...
good point
do it on the 407 lol
CrazyCaker
May 30th, 2007, 10:12 AM
hahaha ya man its been the sunniest days of the year and i dont have my ***king glasses!!! ill be by soon, maybe this weekend or something.. ill bring my camera then and we'll go for a drive ;)
Sounds like a plan! I was also considering driving out to my cottage (Janetville area for those that know it) to hit the back roads. It's VERY quite there, and the roads are SWEET for "spirited" driving! :)
yellowmsp03.5
May 30th, 2007, 10:16 AM
ya man i have a cottage in Gravenhurst and the roads are wicked up there... but alot of sunday drivers enjoying the scenery too
Scooter
May 30th, 2007, 10:40 AM
When you decide to come by and pick up your sunglasses, DO IT! :p Just wait till I come to your neck of the woods (literally hahaha :p )
what? You and Scott are going to neck in the woods?
Bumble G
May 30th, 2007, 10:49 AM
lets make a "20 psi till she blows meet"
Scooter
May 30th, 2007, 10:52 AM
In (BTW - all I heard was something about a "she blows meet")
ESsedan01
May 30th, 2007, 11:08 AM
^ That got my attention. Is Leafhead going to be there?:p
CrazyCaker
May 31st, 2007, 07:52 AM
Ok I'm pissed. Fans are not coming on again. :mad:
Time to hard wire these bitches up to a switch.
RicecookerP5
May 31st, 2007, 09:09 AM
I'm sure you'll figure this out Joe. all this troubleshooting will pay off once the beast is all tuned and flying. any chance your coming out tonight? Depending on how much studying I get done, I'll make a short appearance. I want to go for a boot in that rocket.
CrazyCaker
May 31st, 2007, 09:43 AM
^ I'm trying to avoid places were popo may gather, so I highly doubt I'll be showing up. I have absolutely no emissions system on my car, and no front plate, along with a few other violations... until those are fixed up, I'm in hiding ;) I even went as far as removing every visible sticker on my car, so it draws less attention (lost a few whp because of that :( ) .
RicecookerP5
May 31st, 2007, 10:15 AM
...I even went as far as removing every visible sticker on my car, so it draws less attention (lost a few whp because of that :( ) .
LOL
yellowmsp03.5
May 31st, 2007, 10:31 AM
hey joe you said that your overflow was boiling after shutting the car off right?
CrazyCaker
May 31st, 2007, 10:48 AM
hey joe you said that your overflow was boiling after shutting the car off right?
That's because it's over heating! No fans yo!
I've been driving around with my laptop on so I can keep an eye on EXACTLY what the coolant temp is for now.
CrazyCaker
May 31st, 2007, 10:52 AM
I just ordered a new oil filter sandwich plate so that I can get my oil cooler plumbing hooked up. Now I need to order an inline pump for my tranny cooler lines.
yellowmsp03.5
May 31st, 2007, 10:54 AM
ya but what i was planning on saying next was that if you dont have over a certain level of fluid in your coolant system then your fan meter will not be completely submerged like it has to be and the fans will not turn on... you need to be like around 3/4 full on the pros to keep the meter submerged.
i found this when my fan wasn't turning on... or it would for a bit then i would shut my car off and it would boil, then the next time id run the fan wouldnt turn on again until i added more water
so this might be your problem too
yellowmsp03.5
May 31st, 2007, 10:55 AM
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT SANDWICH PLATE!!! its the one for the oil filter right? I NEED THAT
CrazyCaker
May 31st, 2007, 11:01 AM
+0nk4 yo!
http://www.maxspeed-motorsports.com/aocp.html
http://www.maxspeed-motorsports.com/mmpics/baocp1.jpg
CrazyCaker
May 31st, 2007, 11:05 AM
I'll prob replace the -10AN ports with -8AN fittings which have a barb instead since I am going to use reinforced rubber hose for the plumbing.
red-i
May 31st, 2007, 12:31 PM
+0nk4 yo!
http://www.maxspeed-motorsports.com/aocp.html
http://www.maxspeed-motorsports.com/mmpics/baocp1.jpg
so that's a pipe that 2 people can use at once?
CrazyCaker
May 31st, 2007, 12:36 PM
^ indeed it is :)
CrazyCaker
June 3rd, 2007, 06:45 PM
Fans are now working again! Turns out I had a bad ground on them (don't ever use cheap crimp connectors!!).
Also up'd the boost to 10psi. :D
Logan
June 3rd, 2007, 07:35 PM
countdown to boom:
5...
4...
3...
CrazyCaker
June 3rd, 2007, 07:39 PM
countdown to boom:
5...
4...
3...
Could be a while... but who knows. My leanest condition now is 14.2, but I've pretty much managed to get my afrs to a steady 12, even under boost (idle is 13 at 880rpm).
Scooter
June 3rd, 2007, 08:30 PM
countdown to boom:
5...
4...
3...
2...
tekkie
June 3rd, 2007, 08:33 PM
2...
1
...... wait
.... wait
.. it will happen on thursday when he lets me drive it :D lmao
BOOOM
CrazyCaker
June 4th, 2007, 04:55 AM
.. it will happen on thursday when he lets me drive it :D lmao
hahaha... there won't be any test drivers happening thursday night :p
RicecookerP5
June 4th, 2007, 09:16 AM
boo
Scooter
June 4th, 2007, 09:18 AM
boo
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :eek:
CrazyCaker
June 4th, 2007, 09:22 AM
hahaha... there won't be any test drivers happening thursday night :p
... or any other night/day for that matter :p
Not that I don't trust other members here or anything :rolleyes:
Jamie, I'll let you test drive... we'll do a car swap for a bit next time I'm down there visiting. ;)
RicecookerP5
June 4th, 2007, 09:28 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :eek:
Gotcha bitch!... I'm Rick James Bitch!
tekkie
June 4th, 2007, 09:52 AM
... or any other night/day for that matter :p
Not that I don't trust other members here or anything :rolleyes:
;)
lmao for good reason
CrazyCaker
June 5th, 2007, 03:28 PM
BYE BYE MOTOR!! :( Blew the ***k up today.
Part out starting...
Bahahahaha!! yeaaah right biatches! :p
Aitch
June 5th, 2007, 03:29 PM
Don't temp fate mang......... :p
CrazyCaker
June 5th, 2007, 03:30 PM
Don't temp fate mang......... :p
dude I'm actually praying that it does blow up soon. Gives me a great excuse to tell the wife why I have to drop the built block in sooner! ;) :p
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