Regular Scheduled Maintenace

[Myk]

This is taken from the Mazda Maintenance Menu that everyone should have gotten with their cars.

(1) Every 8000 KM or 4 Months
Replace engine oil
Replace oil filter
Inspect the following;
coolant level
auto tranny fluid level
brake fluid level
clutch fluid level
power steering fluid level
washer fluid level
tension of all drive belts
parking brake operation
lube all locks and hinges
tire psi & wear
function af all lights
body for corrosion or collision damage

(2) Every 24000 KM or 12 Months
includes all items in 8k service and...
lubricate brake caliper slide rails/pins
check engine idle speed
tighten all chassis, body nuts & bolts
Inspect the following;
air filter
cooling system for leaks
f&r disc brakes
drum brake linings, lines & hoses

(3) Every 48000 KM or 24 Months
includes all items in 8k & 24K service and...
replace air filter
replace spark plugs
pressure test cooling system & cap for leaks
Inspect the following;
fuel lines and hoses
exhaust and heat shields
driveshaft dust boots
suspension components
steering operation and linkage including 4 wheel alignment
(4 wheel alignment to be itemized, or chaged, seperately)

(4) Every 96000 KM or 48 Months
includes all items in 8k, 24K & 48 service and...
replace timing belt
replace spark plugs
Inspect the following;
valve clearance
emission hoses and tubes

Listed under additional operations
inspect AC charge and compressor operation anually
rotate tires every 12K
replace coolant at 72K (3 years) then every 48K (2 years)

Time/Distance 4 months (8K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 8 months (16K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 1 year (24K) Do (1&2)
Time/Distance 16 months (32K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 20 months (40K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 2 years (48K) Do (1&2&3)
Time/Distance 28 months (56K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 32 months (64K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 3 years (72K) Do (1&2)
Time/Distance 40 months (80K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 44 months (88K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 4 years (96K) Do (1&2&3&4)
Time/Distance 52 months (104K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 56 months (112K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 5 years (120K) Do (1&2)
Time/Distance 64 months (128K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 48 months (136K) Do (1)
Time/Distance 6 years (144K) Do (1&2&3)

Remember to..
check your tire pressure on a regular basis
use a block heater in winter
drive at posted speed limits http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
avoid long periods of idling
check oil level on a reqular basis
avoid heavy acceleration and excessive engine revving http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Myk]

Here is my take on this.

Dealership service departments have this schedule for you to go in and say 'I need a 8K service,' which is an oil change.  I don't know how much this is, but I know it isn't $30!!  

1-Should service departments be charging to 'inspect' your car?
2-If anything is found, you will you not pay to have it fixed? So the inspection, which is an hourly rate of $70 - $80, is as much to benefit the dealership as well as the car owner?

Interesting: I took my car to Avante this summer for an alignment and asked them to check out the carwhile they had it, make sure everything is ok.  Now Avante isn't the greatest service dept as some members can speak up too, BUT they charged me for the allignment, said I need the rad flushed but everything else is OK....inspection=free of charge!


I know winter sucks!  I did a rad flush and oil change this Saturday and it was cold and damp.  But, this board is here, not just as a place to post pics of your new short shifter or how you painted your calipers orange, but as a tool.  Members will jump at the chance to sit together with another member who wants to save a few hundred bucks and change the brakes on his or her own.  

Q:"How do I change my spark plugs?  I would like to learn!"  
A:"Where do you live, we will come and show you! PS Buy Beer!"

I'm not here to bash the service departments, this is by no means a reflection of the TOP board as a whole and there are a few dealerships that most members would take their first born child to for a checkup.  But those new to the car ownership game, remember, when you go to do your 48K service which includes a spark plug change, be sitting down when they quote you the price.

My experience;

I do all my own service.  Oil changes, spark plugs, coolant, rotate tires, & clean the air filter, Exceptions are; last year I took my car to my neighbour's shop t get the brakes done.  Now I know how easy it is, I'll do it myself this time around.  This includes cleaning the brakes and lubricating the caliper sliders/pins every spring.  This is important, as the pistons have a tendence to seize up on our cars  Also you should ask for a visual ispection, especially things like exhuast, CV joint boots and anything that might elude anyone unless the car was on a hoist...but I still don't think you should be charged for it.

To get an idea of what members can expect at the service desk...please post here the following...

What service you had done?
Was it by the book or was there extra work or some work omited?
How much was the bill?
What dealership OR shop did you go to?
Would you go back or recommend the above?
Why or why not?

Also, when has this club stepped up for you regarding service or a mod install?  Please let fellow memebrs know.

Its up the this boards officers and you, the members to make this board a tool as well as a fun place to visit while on the computer!

[Myk]

As usual Dave Wood's Mazda shows why its worth going out of your way...

This was posted by eternity525 in another thread.

Kevin said it's $135 for the 24k tune-up and $60 for the short shift installation..minus the 17% discount
he's going to
-rotate the tires
-take the brakes apart to lube it up
-something about the caliper pins
-engine oil change
-etc etc...

On one hand...you are not going to get a better deal than this... http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif to Dave Woods!

On the other hand, do the oil change yourself and spend an afternoon one weekend taking the calipers off and lubricating the sliders yourself?

You need to drop off the car or wait for the service anyways so why not spend the time yourself and have an extra $130 in your pocket?

HHHMMMMMMM??????

[macklum]

Just a FYI for those of you with rear discs ,lube the sliders and such twice a year rather than only once ,the brakes will last longer . . When you do the brakes take the rear adjuster apart and clean it as well .

[Myk]

Thanks for the input Macklum!

[Hedges]

Well I have experienced this clubs brotherhood last year as I was abit new to this club sort of say! I have not met anyone and was a noob when it came to my car. Coming here, seeing everyone doing bunch of cool stuff to there cars i decided to go and buy some Eibach springs off this member. Little did I know, 200$ for eibach springs was good, but 200$ for install and 60$ for alignment outside was not!

My bank account has ran dry from tuition, rent and books!So I threw a post up if anyone would be free to help me out with the springs! Surprisingly, Johnny5 replied with a "bring alcohol, i can help you"

After that day with a pack of 24 moosehead, Johnny5 threw on my spring in about 4 hours, with the help of Cardemon and buncha members other members!

After that day I also believed toprotege was bunch of great guys that have made me felt welcome to this club, and sooner or later I have met the rest of the troops and made some pretty good friends!

[Myk]

Thanks for the post Benson! http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif

[ChopstickHero]

wooo... i think it's time for a 96,000km scheduled maintenance.... http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[sstuart]

Myk, you got me into this board and I have always found useful info. I found that other members were having the same idling problem I was and I was able to ask the guys at Brampton Mazda to check out my EGR valve. Wouldn't have had a clue if it wasn't for you guys. It's great to have a place to find other Protege owners that may have had similar problems or done similar work to share ideas and experiences. Let's keep it up!

[Pants McGregor]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ChopstickHero @ Jan. 11 2005,11:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wooo... i think it's time for a 96,000km scheduled maintenance....  http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Mine too http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Anyone have a write-up on how to do that brake service ?

[Myk]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Pants McGregor @ Jan. 11 2005,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ChopstickHero @ Jan. 11 2005,11:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wooo... i think it's time for a 96,000km scheduled maintenance....  http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Mine too http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Anyone have a write-up on how to do that brake service ?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
This is a great How To...

http://www.msprotege.com/forum....1&pp=15 (http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43890&page=1&pp=15)

Remember, for the rear brakes, there is an allan head screw that moves the piston back.

[hcsnoopy]

I guess, I'm sort of on track, @ 40k, just did the oil &amp; filter change.  But....didn't know about the brake lube....I was just going to ask too!  (my brakes squeak when it's Really cold and wet).

Thanks for the post Myk and Macklum =)

I used to take my baby to Avante, but noticed after 2-3 visits, the bill was increasing by $10 but not all stated things were done http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
But they Were nice enough to align my car for free b/c it's included in the first 20k km--long story here, bloody idiots didn't believe my car needed one!!
Anyways.....I would have to agree with Myk, if possible, do all maintenance yourself otherwise, Dave Woods =)  Or post for help from the club!!

Just my 2 cents http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif

[sstuart]

general question for every member of the club:

Has anyone ever thought about creating a membership club card or some sort of ID, then approaching trusted shops and dealerships about offering discounts to members? I'm sure that the potential business that could come from offering a large group of people a discount may be worthwile for a business.

Just a thought. Any other thoughts?

[Naveed74]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sstuart @ Jan. 12 2005,12:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">general question for every member of the club:

Has anyone ever thought about creating a membership club card or some sort of ID, then approaching trusted shops and dealerships about offering discounts to members? I'm sure that the potential business that could come from offering a large group of people a discount may be worthwile for a business.

Just a thought. Any other thoughts?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Actually that is being worked on as we speak http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[sstuart]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Naveed74 @ Jan. 12 2005,12:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually that is being worked on as we speak http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
excellent. any idea of progress?

[Naveed74]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sstuart @ Jan. 12 2005,12:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Naveed74 @ Jan. 12 2005,12:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Actually that is being worked on as we speak http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
excellent. any idea of progress?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Currently we are looking at a 'go live' date of Febuary/March timeframe.

http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif

[sstuart]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Naveed74 @ Jan. 12 2005,12:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Currently we are looking at a 'go live' date of Febuary/March timeframe.

http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
cool. anyway to keep posted of progress?

[MP5]

Great info. Sombody should sticky this thread.

Does anyone know the prices for the Scheduled Maintenances? I know each one is different. I just did my 64K service at Avante and it cost me $80. Thats way cheaper than any of the other S.M.s that I've done at Ontario mazda in the past.

[Myk]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MP5 @ Jan. 12 2005,1:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Does anyone know the prices for the Scheduled Maintenances? I know each one is different. I just did my 64K service at Avante and it cost me $80. Thats way cheaper than any of the other S.M.s that I've done at Ontario mazda in the past.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
It seems prices differ from dealerships!?!?!

Good exsample was your 64K. $80 for the following...
Replace engine oil
Replace oil filter

Inspect the following;

coolant level
auto tranny fluid level
brake fluid level
clutch fluid level
power steering fluid level
washer fluid level
tension of all drive belts
parking brake operation
lube all locks and hinges
tire psi &amp; wear
function af all lights
body for corrosion or collision damage

Basically an oil and filter change!!! The rest they charged you for Inspection. Should be free of charge in my opinion!

[MP5]

I didn't know the prices vary http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dontgetit.gif But still 80bucks isnt that bad cuz they did put more coolant in and stuff like that so im not complaining. The guy said it was a &quot;bumper to bumper&quot; inspection.

[Junior]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MP5 @ Jan. 12 2005,2:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I didn't know the prices vary  http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dontgetit.gif  But still 80bucks isnt that bad cuz they did put more coolant in and stuff like that so im not complaining. The guy said it was a &quot;bumper to bumper&quot; inspection.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
my first oil change at the dealer (8k) was like $73 or sumthing close to that.. I didn't think of it as pricey cause of the high labour rates at stealerships

[sstuart]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (junior @ Jan. 12 2005,2:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MP5 @ Jan. 12 2005,2:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I didn't know the prices vary  http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dontgetit.gif  But still 80bucks isnt that bad cuz they did put more coolant in and stuff like that so im not complaining. The guy said it was a &quot;bumper to bumper&quot; inspection.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
my first oil change at the dealer (8k) was like $73 or sumthing close to that.. I didn't think of it as pricey cause of the high labour rates at stealerships[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I got just the oil change and filter for $33.00 at Brampton Mazda just before Christmas. No inspection. My wife's last visit to Just Lubes in the summer cost $45.00. Guess convenience costs more!

[thekid]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Myk @ Jan. 12 2005,1:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Basically an oil and filter change!!!  The rest they charged you for Inspection.  Should be free of charge in my opinion![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
So for that time when the mechanic is inspecting all those things on your car, who is supposed to be paying him? Why should the dealer do this for free, when it costs them money to have someone do this?

I'm not saying you should pay the dealer to do this as alot of this can be easily done yourself, but you have to realize someone has to pay this guy to work.

Mazda Canada's price for just a basic oil and filter change is $26.95, and that should be standard at every dealer. An 8k service price may very since labour rates can vary from dealer to dealer.

[Myk]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (thekid @ Jan. 12 2005,2:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Myk @ Jan. 12 2005,1:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Basically an oil and filter change!!!  The rest they charged you for Inspection.  Should be free of charge in my opinion![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
So for that time when the mechanic is inspecting all those things on your car, who is supposed to be paying him? Why should the dealer do this for free, when it costs them money to have someone do this?

I'm not saying you should pay the dealer to do this as alot of this can be easily done yourself, but you have to realize someone has to pay this guy to work.

Mazda Canada's price for just a basic oil and filter change is $26.95, and that should be standard at every dealer. An 8k service price may very since labour rates can vary from dealer to dealer.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I see your point but I disagree, visual inspection should be free of charge. You go in for an oil change, what does the mechanic do while the oil is draining? Go for a piss or even better go to the next car and unscrew that cars oil drain plug.

I use to work in a Saturn/SAAB Garage, I've seen it! All cars where washed before returning the keys. When a customer is waiting for his or her car the mechanic would move it into my bay and say don't take it out for another half hour. Or when they did something like brakes, they would put the car in the back of the garage and tell me to washi it and take it out in an hour. Why? Because garages charge the flat rates in the book, and those rates are not how long it takes to do the job.

For exsample. Brake jobs. The book lits the labour as say like 2.5 hours labour. The mechanic does it in an hour, you pay for 2.5 hours!! Thats what flat rate is.

No complaints I think the flat rate is a good system, but don't charge me for inspecting my car.

[KDogg]

Just got my 24,000 K done at Gyro. Cost me $203 in total, which included a few extras:
24,000 K - $164 tax in
new rear wiper insert - $9.17
labor for wiper insert and to remove torqued off lock nut: $the rest

Was a lot of money for basically an oil change, and inspection of my K&amp;N filter but what can you do.

[CrazyCaker]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KDogg @ Jan. 12 2005,3:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Was a lot of money for basically an oil change, and inspection of my K&amp;N filter but what can you do.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You could ah... do it yourself?? http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[sstuart]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Myk @ Jan. 12 2005,3:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I see your point but I disagree, visual inspection should be free of charge.  You go in for an oil change, what does the mechanic do while the oil is draining?  Go for a piss or even better go to the next car and unscrew that cars oil drain plug.

I use to work in a Saturn/SAAB Garage, I've seen it!  All cars where washed before returning the keys.  When a customer is waiting for his or her car the mechanic would move it into my bay and say don't take it out for another half hour.  Or when they did something like brakes, they would put the car in the back of the garage and tell me to washi it and take it out in an hour.  Why?  Because garages charge the flat rates in the book, and those rates are not how long it takes to do the job.

For exsample.  Brake jobs.  The book lits the labour as say like 2.5 hours labour.  The mechanic does it in an hour, you pay for 2.5 hours!!  Thats what flat rate is.  

No complaints I think the flat rate is a good system, but don't charge me for inspecting my car.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
They should do it for free anyway, they could potentially drumming up more business by finding problems and letting you decide if you want to get them fixed. If you do, more money in there pocket. It's simple upselling, retail stores and fast food do it all the time.

[sylvestre]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sstuart @ Jan. 12 2005,3:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They should do it for free anyway, they could potentially drumming up more business by finding problems and letting you decide if you want to get them fixed.  If you do, more money in there pocket. It's simple upselling, retail stores and fast food do it all the time.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
see, if they do that then mechanics would be encouraged to upsell and that'll lead to unnecessary repairs because of unethical people.

Fact is, someone IS looking over things in your car and checking to see if there's a problem. (If they aren't, that's a different story). That person should be paid for their time.

[Evil Homer P5]

Well, i just got my 48K service done at DWM today

A grand total cost of 245.68 which includes TOP 17% discount on P&amp;L and taxes

I was charged for:
oil filter, sand disc, anti seize, 48k inspection, brake cleaner, spark plus, motor mount install.

Another happy DWM customer http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Junior]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Evil Homer P5 @ Jan. 22 2005,4:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, i just got my 48K service done at DWM today

A grand total cost of 245.68 which includes TOP 17% discount on P&amp;L and taxes

I was charged for:
oil filter, sand disc, anti seize, 48k inspection, brake cleaner, spark plus, motor mount install.

Another happy DWM customer  http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
nice! http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif gives me some light as to my 1st experience at DWM in about 2 months... thanks! http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Evil Homer P5]

i should also mention that i did not get a tire rotation and alignment.

[MS MSP]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Evil Homer P5 @ Jan. 22 2005,4:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, i just got my 48K service done at DWM today

A grand total cost of 245.68 which includes TOP 17% discount on P&amp;L and taxes

I was charged for:
oil filter, sand disc, anti seize, 48k inspection, brake cleaner, spark plus, motor mount install.

Another happy DWM customer  http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
They installed the AWR mount for you? Which one, front or rear?
Avante charged me I think $70 for the rear mount.

I'm at 40K, and 2 years on my MSP.
I brought my car in for the 8K at Erin Mills (paid $80 for an oil change and &quot;inspection&quot;), and went to Gyro for the 24K (I think it was about $150, overpaid as well).
I'm seriously considering skipping the 48 K alltogether as I plan to do the following in the spring myself anyway:
-oil change
-tranny flush &amp; fill
-MT fluid flush and fill
-change spark plugs and maybe wires
-visual &quot;inspection&quot;
-exhaust install
-springs install
The only items I am not comfortable with doing are the tranny fluid, (I'm sure I'll figure it out) and the brake maintenance (no experience with brakes).
That being said, i'm not paying $200 or more for tem to &quot;inspect&quot; my car.

[Evil Homer P5]

Mike, they did the FRONT mount and charged me $44

[Protege5 Kid]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ChopstickHero @ Jan. 11 2005,11:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wooo... i think it's time for a 96,000km scheduled maintenance....  http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm too steps away from that...was told by westtown that it will cost $700... http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif

[Junior]

Damn.. called DWM toay but Kevin not in till Tuesday. So i can't get my car in there for the 48K service till wednesday at the earliest... Should I consider talking to another duded or just wait for Kevin?

[Myk]

96K is the timing belt...that alone is around $400.

[ad768]

my manual says replace the timeing belt at 168k (inspect at 96k)

what about replaceing the transmission oil (mannual tranny)
and the brake fluid, there's no mention in the manual, please advise on these items.



Matthew
2002 Protege5, 83000km, midnight blue

[Junior]

K so I was into DWM on Thursday last week for my 48K and my total after discount and taxes was $271.85

New plugs and I asked them to switch from the reg oil to synth, but since I didn't bring any with me I just bought it from them. It was around $47 for 4 litres. (Motul) and they gave me the extra left over from the last litre... NICE

They also let me know that I do need new brakes http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif Les than 10% left and that alignment has to be done as well as new tires... Since I've got the summer going on in about two weeks and the brake pads from the GB I'll take care of that soon enuff...

OVERALL excellent experience, but the inspection, indeed, takes the cake on the invoice... inspection total 2.5 hrs @ 85/hr - 17% discount = $195 http://ib2.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Oh well it's all done now...

[Bumble G]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ad768 @ Mar. 28 2005,12:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">my manual says replace the timeing belt at 168k (inspect at 96k)

what about replaceing the transmission oil (mannual tranny)
and the brake fluid, there's no mention in the manual, please advise on these items.



Matthew
2002 Protege5, 83000km, midnight blue[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
look closer.

it says on page 8-3 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If any do apply, follow Schedule 2 (Canada and Puerto Rico residents follow Schedule 2).
• Repeated short-distance driving
• Driving in dusty conditions
• Driving with extended use of brakes
• Driving in areas where salt or other corrosive materials are being used
• Driving on rough or muddy roads
• Extended periods of idling or low-speed operation
• Driving for long periods in cold temperatures or extremely humid climates[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

furthermore on page 8-5 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If the vehicle is operated in cold districts { below -18 degrees C (0 degrees F) }, replace the timing belt at 96,000 km (60,000 miles).[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

[ad768]

I rarely go out in sub -18C weather.
I wouldn't classify Toronto as a cold weather district. Maybe Toronto drivers can follow the regular schedule recommended for Canada (schedule 2) which calls for timing belt replacement at 168k. The advantage would be only having to do this once in the car's lifetime instead of twice.

[Myk]

Re: 96K Service (http://ib2.toprotege.com/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=11;t=19388;hl=new)

[Myk]

Diddy's Service (http://ib2.toprotege.com/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=11;t=20183;st=0)

[Myk]

96K...

http://ib2.toprotege.com/ikonboa....17;st=0 (http://ib2.toprotege.com/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=4;t=21817;st=0)

[jik992003]

I hope i'm posting this in the right place. But I got my car about 2 weeks ago with 27000klm on it. I don't think it was serviced much beside the regular oil change at walmart. Should I go in and get a 240000 scheduled maintenance check and where? I live in mississauga.

thanks

[sstuart]

Just giving Avante Mazda a "two thumbs up"

Ah yes, the old EGR Valve issue. Last week the P5 started rough idling and check engine light turns on. Thanks to the info on this board, I figured it was the EGR valve. Took it into Avante yesterday and yup, EGR Valve. Good thing the car came with an extended warranty. EGR Valve replaced, no charge.

I've taken both my Proteges to this dealership, they've always been great and the customer shuttles are fantastic. I've also never had an issue getting my club discount on non-warranty parts. I would highly recommend them.

[Myk]

I hope i'm posting this in the right place. But I got my car about 2 weeks ago with 27000klm on it. I don't think it was serviced much beside the regular oil change at walmart. Should I go in and get a 240000 scheduled maintenance check and where? I live in mississauga.

thanks

Go to a dealer and ask for a maintenence menue, if you don't already have one.

24K-Oil, Filter, Check Idle Speed, Lube Caliper Slide Rails/Pins and about a dozen inspection point.

[Genesis]

I need a new car after reading all that service info, wooooh.

[dead_cactus]

Just a FYI for those of you with rear discs ,lube the sliders and such twice a year rather than only once ,the brakes will last longer . .

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[ProDJtege]

while we're on the topic of this 96k maintenance thing... I'm getting mine done soon too. I've been quoted about $1100 at my local avante mazda. Is there a better place for this with a better price tag??

[The Destroyer]

while we're on the topic of this 96k maintenance thing... I'm getting mine done soon too. I've been quoted about $1100 at mine local avante mazda. Is there a better place for this with a better price tag?? Spent just under $800 on my at Airport Mazda 16 months ago. Was quoted $900 at Burlington Mazda. Only reason mine was cheaper I guess was some of the work was covered under my warranty so I saved about $150-200 as per most customers. Still a rip off but thats why I purchased my timing belt/water pump kit from ebay to better prepare once the 192,000km marks rolls around lol.

[Genesis]

the last line in the 'remember to' section is hard for me to avoid.

[enigma3049]

just spent ~$900 incl tax and 17% discount at DWM, but need new wheel bearings on the front too at 500

[Spyder01]

just spent ~$900 incl tax and 17% discount at DWM, but need new wheel bearings on the front too at 500

wow! 96k service?

[enigma3049]

yeah, 96k+timing belt and accessory belt, going back this friday afternoon to get the wheel bearings, suspension lube and put summers on.
gettig ready for driving season. :)

[ProDJtege]

here's my contribution...

Visited Avante Mazda..
-asked for a quote on the service scheduled at 96-99k kms
-they quotes me at about $1200 for everything.
-this includes brakes, throttlebody, timing/acc belts, engine checks, oil change (with me supplying the oil), inspections, replacements, lubrications, etc.. as found in the manual's service menu.

Visited the mechanic I use for various small service jobs (Donnington Park Motors, Richmond Hill)...
-same service map and he quotes me $900.


I ask you all... what's the difference besides the mazda service receipts?

[Myk]

here's my contribution...

Visited Avante Mazda..
-asked for a quote on the service scheduled at 96-99k kms
-they quotes me at about $1200 for everything.
-this includes brakes, throttlebody, timing/acc belts, engine checks, oil change (with me supplying the oil), inspections, replacements, lubrications, etc.. as found in the manual's service menu.

Visited the mechanic I use for various small service jobs (Donnington Park Motors, Richmond Hill)...
-same service map and he quotes me $900.


I ask you all... what's the difference besides the mazda service receipts?

Most of the time, the dealer is doing stuff, and charging you for stuff, that you don't need to do!

What is being do for throttlebody, engine checks, inspections, replacements? What is all this???

[ProDJtege]

Most of the time, the dealer is doing stuff, and charging you for stuff, that you don't need to do!

What is being do for throttlebody, engine checks, inspections, replacements? What is all this???

well if you look a the car's manual on the page with the service menu, it shows all the thinks that need either I (Inspect), R (Replace), or L (Lubricate).... My guess is that they REALLY inspect and replace and lubricate what the manula dictates to get done, thus charging more for the time and materials involved.
The trottlebody gets cleaned I think, and the engine checks are likely the proper alignment and firing of the pistons and such (i'm not super-mechanically-inclined, but yea).
Replacements could be anything they deem that a 100,000km driven car needs replaced for optimal condition.

This summer I intend on doing a slew of maintenance myself.
Spark plugs and wires = me
wheel rotations = me
etc etc.

[Myk]

Oh I see. I don't see anything in the menu about the throttlebody. Every 24K it says to check engine idle speed.

Has anyone ever had the valve clearance inspected? Its under the 96K part.

[CrazyCaker]

Has anyone ever had the valve clearance inspected? Its under the 96K part.

If you got the 96k service done and timing belt changed then it should have been included.

[CulRidr]

Can you go and ask for a 96k service and tell them not to do certain things (like say a timing belt job you would have done recently...)? How does that work?

[Bumble G]

you can ask for whatever you want.
It depends on the dealership. Some will try to force you to do everything on the service schedule. Others may just say sure and only do the items you want.

[prot3g3]

my car is in for the "boom" right now, since they have the valve cover off and are replacing one of the cams, im having the timing belt changed

[dj_baby_tenshi]

How much do u thinks is an ave price for labour to have a timing belt & water pump installed.. dealerships vs. non-dealerships (including friends or non-mazda dealerships)??

[Marleymar]

^ I asked this very question at DWM last week I was quoted between $200.00 & $250.00 IIRC for club donating members granted I have all the parts

[The Destroyer]

^ I asked this very question at DWM last week I was quoted between $200.00 & $250.00 IIRC for club donating members granted I have all the parts
Serious? That's not bad at all! Maybe we should put together a full parts list of what's needed for the 96k service. Might definitely help a lot of members.

[CulRidr]

Holy crap that's cheap!! Thank god I have a local club member that can help because our dealers are much more expensive IIRC...

[dj_baby_tenshi]

^ I asked this very question at DWM last week I was quoted between $200.00 & $250.00 IIRC for club donating members granted I have all the parts

Stupid questions but what does IIRC stand for?

[The Destroyer]

Stupid questions but what does IIRC stand for?
If I Recall Correctly

[dj_baby_tenshi]

If I Recall Correctly

hahaha tnx ... don't i feel stupid

[Marleymar]

Serious? That's not bad at all! Maybe we should put together a full parts list of what's needed for the 96k service. Might definitely help a lot of members.

I had picked up that timing belt /water pump package from the ebay GB so I believe it came with everything needed to do the install

list:
Timing Belt
Water Pump
2 x Tensioner
Gasket

[dj_baby_tenshi]

I had picked up that timing belt /water pump package from the ebay GB so I believe it came with everything needed to do the install

list:
Timing Belt
Water Pump
2 x Tensioner
Gasket

Damn, i've forgotten to get the last 2 items..

[Spectre2689]

http://cgi.ebay.ca/93-03-Mazda-626-MX6-Protege-Ford-Probe-2-0-Timing-Kit_W0QQitemZ320278326163QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33625QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Just wanted to check if that's what I'm looking for for the 96k service. My car is starting to make strange noises at just shy of 97k so I figure it's time to take it in.. :confused:

[dead_cactus]

http://cgi.ebay.ca/93-03-Mazda-626-MX6-Protege-Ford-Probe-2-0-Timing-Kit_W0QQitemZ320278326163QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33625QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Just wanted to check if that's what I'm looking for for the 96k service. My car is starting to make strange noises at just shy of 97k so I figure it's time to take it in.. :confused:

Yep, thats it. Great deal, there are a bunch of us that took advantage of the timing belt/water pump on eBay.

I also replaced my plugs and wires at the same time as the water pump and timing belt.

[Spectre2689]

Yep, thats it. Great deal, there are a bunch of us that took advantage of the timing belt/water pump on eBay.

I also replaced my plugs and wires at the same time as the water pump and timing belt.

Yeah I'm gonna do my plugs at least, probably wires too. Got long reach plugs and I haven't found a really good reason or the time to put them in yet..

Thanks though!

[Genesis]

avoid heavy acceleration and excessive engine revving

sorry not in my book