FAKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MixedAznBoy]

drivin in this shit ass weather is gay!! i was driving along bayview and i had to get to my friends house and i stopped at a stop sign to bad i just drove through 2 feet of water!!!! STALLED MY CAR! and flooded my interior!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOo.. my car won'y start... iv been standin the rain fo the past 4-5 hours!!! im going to kill someone

[ChopstickHero]

shit dood... sorry to hear that.... what are you gonna do now?

[MixedAznBoy]

pray my car starts tom.. if not, kill someone?

[diggnin]

http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif that sucks M.A.B.! i was just out in this shit too and nearly got killed when we were blinded by some punk in a SUV who wouldn't stop when going through almost 2 feet of water!!! our car was practically in a frickin' waterfall and we weren't able to see a damn thing. we nearly came to a standstill and the dude behind us almost drove into us. the bastard in the SUV sped of through a red light to avoid the beat down of his life. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bs.gif

[MP5Navy]

LOL I was on heading south on Bayview tonight. Just north of the Bayview + York Mills intersection there was a lake! Honestly at least 8 - 12 inches of water! I was thinking about going through it but decided against and 3-point turned back up Bayview when I saw a lowered Honda with LED windsheild washer squirters hydrolocked in the right hand lane heading north! Me and my friends started laughing like crazy but I bet that guy was pissed!

[Mike_Moss]

that sucks, dude. this damn rain leaked into my passanger foot well (faulty windshield sealant...getting changed tmrw). so yeah, i had a nice sized puddle sloshing around over there. $1 and 5mins after stopping at a gas station vacuum thing and water was gone! http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

hope your car starts! but, forgive me for asking, but why in the heck would you stop in 2' of water?!?!?! http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif especially w/a CAI like yours??? http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[diggnin]

st.clair and bathurst, bloor and greenwood, and queen st e. (the beaches), are all completely flooded. store owners (probably their employees) were standing in the water with there pants rolled up to their knees digging all of the leaves out of the blocked gutters. water levels at queen, and at bloor was easily over a foot of water in the left lanes. my girlfriend works on bloor so she'll have a fun time mopping up the store tomorrow just like last time...lol. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[MixedAznBoy]

oh was rushing to my friends because i had a big project due and i was late.. and i didn't notice the water and like by the time i stopped the car was already off.. i opened the door and the fvcked water poured into the car.. !!!!

[diggnin]

i think we all know what your new big project is gonna be. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[YP5 Toronto]

$HIT it happened to me too...I turn a corner and there was SOOOOOO much water.....

My Check Engine Light came on and it was sputtering for 15 minutes....I decided that the best thing to do was to drive the car as long as possible to heat up the moisture in an effort to evaporate the water soaked in the engine bay.

Fortunately, it worked. After about 20 minutes of just driving, the car was back to normal.

Driving in that rain was crazy (kinda fun).

[Disco]

Same thing happened to me 2 yrs ago. Engine bay is completely soaked, but it's not the end of the story. 10 days later when I was driving I saw smoke coming out the hood, lucky I was only 2 blocks away from my buddy's home. Opened up the hood and #%%!#@^$&*$%^&, the engine bay is on fire !!!!! Didn't burn down anything but I found a bush inside the engine bay (lovely maple leaves). Dried leaves on Gear box, intake & exhaust manifold, basically everywhere. Took me an hour to clean it up.

If you've ran over a pond pop up the hood and make sure no leaves inside, check top to bottom. Otherwise make sure you have programmed your cell phone speed dial to 911 coz' the leaves will dry up and catch fire eventually.

[MixedAznBoy]

just went to the dealership! im so fvcked.. engine is still dead and i need to pay 500 fo them to clean my intake manifold and pistons.. and if that doesn't work i need a new engine!!! 4000!!

[diggnin]

HOLY S@$%#IT!!! somebody help Mixed!!! Dude that is some serious bullshit. Somebody here has gotta help you out. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bs.gif

[SunBurst-P5]

Mixed...that soooooooooo sucks, sorry to hear about your car quittin on ya...hopefully someone from the board will be able to help you for WAY less than what the dealership wants.

I was so afraid of having my car stall in all that water too...driving north on Leslie at york mills last night just after 9pm was absolutely crazzzzzy....same thing happened to me...damn SUV decided to do a fly by and I thought I was in a waterfall! LOL

Dave you should've seen all the mini lakes on Leslie St at York Mills....and saw you take Bayview exit off 401...hope you heard me honk back at you through the noise of the all the rain!!! http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Protege5 Kid]

Wow those are crazy storys...

[feedb4ck]

Dude, sucks royally.

Almost got screwed last night driving my inlaws home after the Monks.

Going west on Gardiner, just at the turnoff to the 427 north, 2 right lanes were submerged. If it wasn't for the towtruck there helping the 3 cars that didn't notice the water, I would have either had to stop in the lake, or worse, hydro into one of the stopped cars. Glad there was't as much water in the 3rd lane, and that traffic was slow enough for me to cut over and get around.

I love the rain, but shit like that sucks huge

[CarDemon]

I guess I'll be retracting the COLDRAM™ for the fall and winter like I said I would, when I first made it. It is these horror stories I fear will happen. Coldram can be very much like a Hoover when it is in the wrong position. I haven't perfected the spot of mounting and it was a trial.

I may just move it in the wheel well or mount it higher to liscence plate hieght in front of the rad with my new rectangular scoop.

Goodluck buddy, and I'm gonna drill drainage holes too. Keep us posted!!!

[Wheels.ca]

We have a CAI possitioned right down behind the left fog light. Dave wood inserted some rubber gasket around the light to try and help prevent just this sort of thig. in 2 feet of water i doubt it would have helped but for the rest of the time...

[Mike_Moss]

Markus, thats really shitty. I hope everything works out.


On a solution note, maybe its just some moisture in your ignition coils or something. Maybe you will be able to start it in a couple of days? The reason I'm kinda skeptical about "hydro-lock" in your case, is cuz you were stopped when the engine died. Therefore, at only 750rpm (assuming you were around idle speed), I don't think the engine would have enough power to suck the water up the whole intake tube (I remember looking at your intake and thats a LONG tube). It may have just died from no air and there is probably no water in your engine. Just something to check out before you fork your hard earned cash over to Mazda. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[Protege00]

Wow, and I thought I was the only person to have a problem last night. I was driving down Airport rd last night in Caledon and buy the time I realized I was in 2 feet of water it was too late. I just gave her and went right through...Next thing I know my battery light came on....hoped that it just needed to dry out, but this morning it was still on. Realized I got a ton of water in my alternator and almost shorted it out. The light is off now, but im gonna keep an eye on it just incase.

[YP5 Toronto]

service centers must be having a field day with all these water related engine problems.

I always RESIST the temptation to drive through big puddles, even though its soooo much fun. But last night I simple got caught in one.

I disconnected my battery last night, and I reset my Check Engine Light indicator. All seems fine.

[Protege5girl]

Would insurance cover something like this?? :/

[ChopstickHero]

Confederation and Queensway... I was following a domestically riced Grand Am when all of a sudden it slammed on the brakes! i saw the car slide into the pool of water and 2 huge waves came out on either side. i couldn't turn around b/c there was a island median so i slowly went through it. it was probably about a foot of water. if i went through that thing at 60km/h, say goodbye to my engine.

[CarDemon]

Just for clarification, all of us who are concerned about this happening to ourselves more inparticular have some sort of cold air intake or coldram™???

If not, running our car by mistake into 2ft of water on regular stock setup, what will happen at the worst?

We here down at GCPT fear hydrolocked engines but our setup is a dryer duct going up to the stock airbox with a drop'in K&N. Would there be enough suction to do damage as opposed to you guys with the fillter cone right down in the sea, snorkelling.

[03bluP5]

Wow guys, that's freaky. It wasn't nearly that bad in KW yesterday. Although this is probably one of those "once in a lifetime" situations, it makes me glad I've got the short ram instead of the CAI. Like wheels.ca said, a bypass valve likely would not do ANY good if you're driving thru 2 feet of water.
For those of you who got water in the car, make sure that the carpeting is dried out really well. I've seen floors rust out in short time from vehicles with damp carpeting. This time of year you'll have to have it done professionally with strong vacuum suction and high velocity fans. Moisture held against the floor is like acid.
Sounds like some insurance claims may be in order!
Good luck.
BTW, did anyone's Sparko wires let them down? Mine fit like a charm from the get go so I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

[ENVD P5]

IF you have a CAI and no by-pass valve and you go thru 2' of water at fast speed your engine will suck the water in and bye bye to that. If you have the by-pass valve you will be safe as the engine will take the air thru by-pass valve from the engine bay. If you have short ram air then you will be ok. But then again in 2' of water many other electronic things get wet and you are screwed either way. If you can still drive your car thats best cause then the heat from the engine will dry it out. But if your car dies then all you can do is wait for it to dry up and maybe then i will start. If it doesnt... well... it will cost you a lot of $.

[Silvermp5]

For those of you that have engine problems, call your insurance companies and find out if you're covered for flood, it should be part of the comprehensive coverage, that covers fire and theft, it should also cover floods.

Hope this helps

[ENVD P5]

When you have any aftermarket work done to your engine and your insurance doesnt know abuot it you dont have any coverage. So what you will need to do is take aftermarket intake out and put stock back in. But if the mechanic checking wants to be an ass (and he will if his from you insurance) he will notice right away that you had something done.

[feedb4ck]

I've gone through some rather decent puddles in my stock p5. not 2 feet of water mind you, but maybe 8 inches or so... at least a curb height...

and I've done it at decent speed also, so it really kicked the stuff up into the engine bay...

but mostly it just steamed alot, and had some minor performance degradation for a little bit, but nothing severe, and nothing permanent (to the best of my knowledge)

[jali-p5]

it was that bad in brampton too........but i don't think i saw anywhere where there was 2ft of water.....thank goodness, otherwise i too may be posting my little problem on this post. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

although i do think that having a by-pass valve on your intake is a good thing, the amount of performance you lose from putting that piece of plastic on your intake is enough to offset all the gains you would get if you just left the car stock.......so if you do go CAI, then don't put a by-pass otherwise, don't waste your money buying a CAI unless you want it for looks.........on another note, i find it hard to see that if you drive through 2 ft of water that your by-pass valve could actually help you out since it too would likely get stuck under the water...........if you're driving through 2 ft of water, then i think you have other things to worry about too........like shorts, and other electrical failures......

and if you haven't noticed, we don't have propellors on the back of our cars.......so don't drive through lakes and rivers.........hahahaha........ http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif

seriously though, that rain yesterday sucked large! and for some, sucked enough to "flood" their engines......... http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Protege00]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if you're driving through 2 ft of water, then i think you have other things to worry about too........like shorts, and other electrical failures......[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Thats what my problem was....The water wasn't high enough for it to get into the air filter or anything....but seeing as our alternators are very low to the base of the car it probably got drenched on me and could be the reason behind my battery light coming on. The water is most likely shorting out the alternator not allowing the battery to charge. But so far all seems good for me....light has been off all day and idling sounds better.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and if you haven't noticed, we don't have propellors on the back of our cars.......so don't drive through lakes and rivers.........hahahaha........ [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

What can I say, I like to test the limits of my car... http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Seriously though, the water had to be as high as mid bumper/top of lower grill......probably higher than my exhaust aswell. Atleast I got a car wash. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[MixedAznBoy]

thx a lot everyone.. if they can't fix it by tom.. im goin to tow it to my house and take apart the engine and see if i need to replace anything hopefully it wouldn't cost that much

[Evil Homer P5]

ouch, that rought man. sorry to hear about your ride..

good thing i stayed in last night.
plus i wouldn't want to miss the simpson's either. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[MixedAznBoy]

whne i got out of my car! the water started pourin into the car i opened the engine bay and to my surprise the entire intake was under water!!! and i feel so dumb because like whne i stopped i didn't know my engine was dead and gave it a little start up then i hit myself and went outside...

[MixedAznBoy]

i hope this shit doesn't happen to anyone else.. my advice put ur stock intake in or use shortram.. not worth the fear of that shit happened yanno?? ill update u guys tom to see if they can fix it

[jgoertzen]

i didn't run into any trouble......but i'm sorry to hear about everyone thatdid....it was a monsoon....i was workin at the depot....and it was like god kept jumping on the roof with all the rain....INSANE http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif in st.kits....we have this one bridge......it would literally collect over 2 feet in a storm like that ....but it was on a sevice road....so gun it...and you would be fine.....i love that stuff....

[MixedAznBoy]

mazdaspeed gave me a good idea.. look at a 323 The 1.8 is called BPturbo 180 HP.. worse comes to worse that would be the cheapest/best swap i could get.. any other ideas
thx alan

[Protege5 Kid]

Every time i come back to this thread my heart drops...sorry about the ride alan

[Mike_Moss]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MixedAznBoy @ Nov. 11 2002,6:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">mazdaspeed gave me a good idea.. look at a 323 The 1.8 is called BPturbo 180 HP.. worse comes to worse that would be the cheapest/best swap i could get.. any other ideas
thx alan[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
uh, will that swap work???! i highly doubt thats possible w/out lotsa custom work. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

did you read my previous post?

[MixedAznBoy]

mike_moss
yes i did.. thats what i was hoping!! but worse comes to worse an engine swap will lighten my heart... =) hopefully it works

[Protege5 Kid]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mike_moss @ Nov. 11 2002,6:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MixedAznBoy @ Nov. 11 2002,6:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">mazdaspeed gave me a good idea.. look at a 323 The 1.8 is called BPturbo 180 HP.. worse comes to worse that would be the cheapest/best swap i could get.. any other ideas
thx alan[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
uh, will that swap work???!  i highly doubt thats possible w/out lotsa custom work.   http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

did you read my previous post?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Let the man hold on to a bit of hope will ya?

[rowan]

Check out the Corksport drag car .. that has a BPT in it.
But BPT's are hard to find, and I don't think they had a particularly easy time putting it in but it's possible!

[CarDemon]

Just this evening I went out to look at my COLDRAM™ Ghetto Concept Performance Trend intake. Your story spooked me highly, but I am skeptical and for good reason.

A few TPC members have seen my COLDRAM™ as it is a 3&quot; diameter aluminum heater duct elbow protruding just beneath the driver's fog light into oncoming wind when driven forward. It is attached to the flexible aluminum pipe leading to my stock air box.

Yes it has a good chance of being submerged in a relatively deep puddle the one your must have been in.

Mike Moschella and I did a ghetto test. He revved my car at various RPMS and it was only at 5000 RPM that a fair to reasonable amount of suction was felt that could draw some water up my winding and corrugated tube, but was highly unlikely to cause an instantaneous hydro lock. Mind you, the car was at a stand still but I will try it again somtime with leaves and paper.

Our Rational &amp; Wishful thinking is telling us you may a wee bit of hope. And I mean wee.
If you coasted to a stop sign in a deep puddle, or your car stalled while coasting, or you stopped or were just about to take off when your engine stalled may be the key to this mystery. We sort of hypothesized that your engine may not be hydrolocked. The slowing down of your engine RPM to around 750 at least is not sufficient enough to suck water up and send you to hell yet.

Let's play with wishful thinking before you let those greedy bastards take apart your engine and let things dry out first. I would take a blow dryer and dry every electrical connection and apparatus and then crank it up.

Even to take off and accelerate at a minimum of 4000RPM, maybe some sputtering, but the gravity and power is not too much like a hoover vacuum the way he was explaining your intake to me and how it was constructed.

Perhaps your engine is screwed as it was starved long enough in the puddle with your cone submerged and any to light acceleration just sucked up even a limited amount of water and screwed you.

I am so eager to hear the final word even if it has been posted, so I'm gonna read this whol entire thread again.

[cruisinblackp5]

If you do contact Corksport they will tell you all teh custom work they put in and how difficult it was. With all there resources it was still very difficult not to say that it can't be done but you are gonna have one hell of a time putting that in.

[diggnin]

maybe each member could donate $5 or so towards the cost of Mixed getting his ride fixed?! it's just a suggestion but i know that this could have happened to any of us. and now we all learned from this mishap. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blush.gif

[Mike_Moss]

that would be GREAT if you could swap to a BPT. i wish you the best of luck!

BPT's can be found a couple of places locally. and fairly cheap. there was one i found on the net about 6mths ago from montreal for about $900CDN. i believe that included the tranny too. that was the best deal i've ever found..so i'd doubt you'll find it again.

i hope you dont have to do this tho. keep me posted! http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[superdave]

Try and fix it yourself. Pull the plugs and turn the engine over by hand with the belts(is this possible on a piston engine? http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dontgetit.gif I know it is with rotary http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ) or maybe a socket on the main pulley? to get some of the water out (if it is actually filled with water). Then with the plugs still out, crank it over with the starter. Pour a few drops of oil in each cylinder, and install plugs. Try things out now. The little water left in your intake and whatnot won't be enough to harm the engine, and may infact help to remove carbon build up. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Warning: This may appear to be a 'shadetree' fix, it probably is... I live in the middle of f-ing nowhere. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[CarDemon]

My mind is telling me this guy is HELLBENT on a new engine and swap without trying to revive this one.

I hope that if paramedics found my body slightly pale and cool they would try everything to revive me to get my vitals going instead of pulling out the bodybag and preparing my organs to be salvaged.

Just a thought!
&quot;Don't prepare the eulogy until the body is dead.&quot;

In this case I would actually call Peter Wood and company to work some sort of ritual to get this thing up and running. Oh yea, of little faith..,

http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dontgetit.gif

[CarDemon]

Mixed Azn Boy!
How is your car running now?
I remembered that your engine was fine and your only problem was rough idling. What's the update?

[ALS-protege]

I haven't seen Marco online on this board in a long time...
Either too busy with school and personal life or due to the flooded car...he may no longer has a Protege....

Hope all is well with you and your car.