Cold Air Intake

[Scooter]

I'm considering getting a cold air intake put in to my 2002 P5. I'm not going to jump into it immediately or anything but am definately giving it some serious thought. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any input / suggestions. I don't really know too much about what makes / models fit the P5 and the pro's and con's for each.

Anyone have any input based on what they've got, or have seen on others? How much should I be looking at for the intake + installation? I know it'll vary depending on the make (ie: Razo vs. AEM or whatever), but I'm looking for any input at all. Any suggestions for where I should buy it and / or get it installed? http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif

[KDawgONE]

Best place to buy-->thru me
Best intake to buy-->Injen CAI
Check the thread in FOR SALE for an example of my prices...
Its under "I GOT PRICES LIKE I SAID I WOULD..."

[cruisinblackp5]

I'll put my vote in for Injen and as for installation DIY

[Scooter]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cruisinblackp5 @ Nov. 10 2002,01:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'll put my vote in for Injen and as for installation DIY[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Is it that easy? Even for someone that has no idea what the hell they're doing?

Is this the same kit you guys are talking about?

Injen Intake (http://hammer.prohosting.com/~scene/injen.jpg)
Injen Race Division Cold Air Intake and AEM bypass valve?

Is there anything else I need, or is that complete? Basically if I could get that for $450 or less it's a good deal then right? I'm just starting to research it, but will definately order from KDawg if the price is right (which from the sounds of it,......it probably will be).

[Scooter]

I don't know what the direct link isn't working,...but if you hit the link, then copy and paste the URL into another window it'll show the pic.

[cruisinblackp5]

THat's the one, not sure on price but it works pretty good and is p peace of cake to install, I think it might even come with directions.

[CarDemon]

I heard of GCPT(Ghetto Concept Performance Trends) The member who thinks he is some CEO and President is selling something by the name of COLDRAM™.

The following testimonials are those of customers that volunteered their vehicles. All wanted to remain anonymous as they are TPC members and prominent ones too.

1.&quot;...suffering suckatash.., who needs NOS now?&quot;

2.&quot;...this makes me want to rip out my 'INJEN' and get my money back&quot;

3.&quot;..,this has to be the best bang for my buck, and I have had alot of bucks in my time&quot;.

4.&quot;..,I really feel the midrange power dude.&quot;

5. &quot;...CarDemon! you're intake is compared to what Shaolin did for martial arts.&quot;

6.&quot;...I never thought your grade 6 science fair looking project would give V-tech rivals a run for their money.&quot;

7.&quot;.. With all this power I need a huge ass wing to keep more down force on my car.&quot;

8.&quot;...Can't wait to see more of your cheap yet effective product line.&quot;

9.&quot;CarDemon, you are the Ghetto Budget Messiah come to save us Po Folk!&quot;

10.&quot; I wanna be like you CarDemon&quot;

11. &quot;...So where can I proudly paste your GCPT stickers man.&quot;

12.&quot;.. I can't believe this wasn't made with child labour.&quot;

13.&quot;..., Blood clot!, blood fire!, dis ya ting ah go mash up de streets.&quot;

14.&quot; CarDemon, can you make this for my HOnda?&quot;

15. &quot;CarDemon, I beg of you to make my Gen 1 faster, please, please, please.&quot;

16. &quot;...No wonder I couldn't keep up with you at the Niagara Cruise.&quot;

17. &quot;...Please CarDemon don't install this in Lucky School Driver Attendees.&quot;

18. &quot;.., With the money I saved on your COLDRAM™ I can get rid of my Chia Pet/ Fischer Price Man haircut and add blond tips.&quot;

[03bluP5]

You can expect to receive all sorts of answers and personal opinions on this. Seems from what I've read, most people prefer the Ingen CAI over the AEM and Ractive short rams. It also happens to be the priciest.
I bought the AEM short ram because I heard Ractive was poor quality and I didn't know the real difference between a short ram and a CAI. Also, Ractive was only available in that god-awful bright yellow and I wanted blue. Ingen was just too difficult for me to get in this area and the AEM was relatively cheap from the US, until I got hit with a brokerage fee of $60 (damn UPS!http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
The AEM designed for the auto tranny is shorter than the 5 speed version. In fact, it's quite short but sturdy. No home-made flimsy bracket required. It was easy to install, even for a beginner.
The CAI has the advantage of sucking colder air than a short ram. This is supposed to be superior. The advantage of the short ram, is it can stay put all year round. The CAI risks sucking in water and getting coated in crap unless you have some AEM bypass valve I believe. I still wouldn't trust a CAI in the wheel well during the winter months.
If I had to do it again, I would not have invested the money in the AEM. Looks ok in bright blue, but I don't feel it's superior to the K&amp;N drop in I had first. It does have a cool sound under hard acceleration, but I don't feel any noticable performance improvements.
Good luck in your decision.

[Scooter]

First off,......I have to say, CarDamon,....that's some funny shit. I think I jsut pissed my pants,.....yup,...I did. Damn I hate when that happens!

03BluP5,...thanks for all of the info. Are there different designs depending on whether your car is auto or stick? That's the impression I was getting from something you said. If so,...I better figure that out before I buy anything. Damn,.....I'm just wating for a sales guy to take advantage of me. Somebody pass the lube, 'cause this is gonna' hurt.

Can you tell from the pic I posted, or the product name if it's short ram, or CAI? It said something about a bypass valve explaining that even if you were to be &quot;totally imersed in water, it would still be ok&quot;,...is that jsut marketing, or someting I should be worried about. If it sucks from the wheel well, I could see why that would be something to worry about. Just tonight with all of the rain, I was spraying water all over the place from my wells.

Anyway, I really appreaciate the help on this,....I definately don't want to just buy something with out being sure that I'm getting the right one.

[ChopstickHero]

the Injen fits both the auto and manual version of the Protege 2.0L engine. the AEM has 2 versions, one for the auto and one for the manual. essentially, they perform the same function, but the tubing is different. the auto is has shorter tubing while the manual has longer tubing and reaches down into the engine. there's a difference in the design b/c the auto tranny is larger and takes up more space.

the AEM bypass valve would be used with the Injen CAI. it supposedly works, but are you really going to drive through puddles large enough to flood your whole filter? for example, today it was raining hardcore and i drove through many puddles. my custom CAI remained intact and i did not flood my filter. many people who have the Injen CAI do not have an AEM bypass filter for various reasons (waste of money, don't believe the marketing, smart enough to drive in puddles deeper than their car... etc). for some, they probably buy it for the peace-of-mind.

beauty of my custom CAI is that i can take it apart and turn it into a short ram. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[MixedAznBoy]

my suggestion is don't get one!! get short ram!! my cold air flooded after i drove through unexpected 2 feet of water!! now the engine is dead =(

[cruisinblackp5]

With the AEM water bypass valve you will be perfectly fine driving through any puddle that won't screw up your car if you didn't have an intake. What this bypass valve does is takes air from inside the engine bay if the filter is fully submerged in water. So when your filter is fully submerged you would see perfomance similar to a short ram style. Your car would breath through the bypass valve untill the filter was no longer submerged.

[Scooter]

Sounds good. I think I would prefer to get the bypass valve jsut for the piece of mind. I wouldn't want to end up in a situation like MixedAznBoy. That was actually what I was afraid of,...especially after that monsoon last night.

Anyway, thanks again for the help, and if anyone has anything else to ad,....feel free.

Cheers.