Rim question

[Kranberry]

I understand what offset is. When you guys are talking about rolling your fenders, is it because the wheel offset went from lets say a +50 to a +45 causing it to stick out too much?

If this is the case...would you have problems going to a +52 offset with it being to close to the frame of your car?

I'm asking this as look for rims for my car. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif

[Eds mp5]

Basically the higher the offset the further to the center of the car the wheel will be therefor if you have a 52 offset the rims will not rub, a 40 offset may rub and will rub on a p5 if the car is lowered. The stock offset it 50. If you plan on lowering your car then look for a set of rims 47+ the higher the offset the better it is for our cars. But, good luck finding some rims with a high offset. When shopping get them to put them on your car first adn check that they don't rub before paying... cause once you drive away you will not be able to return them in most cases. Many people will try to convice you that they will fit, when they often dont.
Just my two cents.

[Protege5 Kid]

You can get your rims machiened to the offset you want........but there is something about it that people don't like. I don't know why?

[freak005]

Okay, when I read this, am I the only one who thought he meant he KNOWS what happens when your offset is too low, and that those with that type of offset need to roll their fenders in order to avoid rubbing, but that he wanted to know (since I don't think it's ever been mentioned) that if you got an offset HIGHER than stock, would you have the OPPOSITE problem, wherein your tires could possibly rub the inner fender walls??? Of course, I don't know the answer to the question, but what was the point in answering his question with info he'd already stated he knew?

Sorry if I sound like a b!tch, but I've got a migraine, and I've been dealing with morons all day, and I needed to vent on something (no, I'm not saying Ed or Nick are morons).

Protege5 Kid, they don't like machining rims because it compromises the integrity of the wheel by thinning the metal. IE, the offset only gets 'moved' by removing thickness from the wheel, thereby weakening the wheel, as well. Obviously, driving around on weak wheels isn't a preferred method of transportation.

[Protege5girl]

Does it really weaken the wheel by that much? If your only taking off 5mm?

I have asked several people about machining the rims, and people just don't like it. No reason given. The prefer to roll the fenders.

Sorry Kran, I have no clue.....but I wouldnt worry about something with an offset that is too high. You cant find +45 offset let alone +55.

[rowan]

Sedan owners have a few mm of slack in the offset they can fit.The P5 is particluarly fuct because of how they made the back. But something like a +42 should still fit ok on the sedan.

I don't know how much bigger the offset would have to be before it started rubbing on some of the suspension bits, but I don't think you'll find a whole lot of wheels over +50 anyway?

I suppose eventually you'll wind up in a situation where the inside of the tire is touching a strut or something http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

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But yeah, that is the problem. Not with +45 usually, but with only a +40 it sticks out too far and doesn't fit inside the fender anymore. So when your suspension compresses, the fender meets tire.

[YP5 Toronto]

Machining the rims is never the preferable thing to do. I have friend that have done it and have never had a problem with them. The key (as mentioned before) is that these rims were created with certain tolerances to stress. Any changes to the thickness can affect the strength of the rims. Some brands may differ from how machining will affect its overall integrity.

On top of this, most shops will not warranty the work they do when you get them machined, don't even think about the manufacturer or the retailer to support you if you do it.

Lastly, the machining has to be precise. Any small defiance in changing the balance or &quot;true&quot;-ness can negatively affect your ride comfort, safety and create uneven tire ware. So....... machine with caution.

Jason

[Silvermp5]

Machining the wheel is fine if you're just using you wheels to drive around. What I mean is that if you race your car on a track then the integrity of the wheel is a question because of hard cornering and braking actions. That's why shops will not guarantee the work. Also, if you're wheels have a lifetime warranty against manufacturer defect then it will be void.

just my 2 cents

[Protege5 Kid]

Wow i learned a few things today!!!

freak don't worry.......Ed and Me are Morons, but Ed is a moron with a nicer car!!

[Eds mp5]

HAHAHA, If we all drive Mazda's we ALL have nice cars..
Well put Nick!

[freak005]

That's okay... at least you guys are a lot more tolerant than the tools out west (Vancouver).

They just delete my posts when I post something they disagree with.. even though it was a very valid point.

For those that missed it... one of the guys got a speeding ticket, so stated he couldn't make any more meets. Very simple. So, of course, the other members jumped all over the RCMP for being @ssh0l3s for 'profiling' and 'harrassing an innocent modifier' (even though buddy fully admitted he was speeding, and that's what he got nailed for, not an inspection violation or whatever). So, anyway, I railed on them for being irresponsible morons who will never be a valid car club, and they didn't like that.

Go figure. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Kranberry]

Nice one freak. You were closer than Ed and Nick on the response. http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Rowan, you are saying I have room to move, what about if I lowered the car? Basically, what I really want to know is, how much leeway I have from stock offset especially if I lower the car. Thans guys... http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[rowan]

According to ARD_MP5 (Rishie) on the protegeclub board .. the wheel guru since he owns a shop and has test-fit lots of rims...

You should be able to go all the way down to a +42 on the sedan with no rubbing problems, even if it is lowered.

Here is his &quot;Fitment Recipie&quot; thread..
&lt; http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=6325 (http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6325) &gt;

[TRF TOM]

I'm in the process of trying to find rims that have the correct offset. I'm still waiting for my springs (Backordered). So the car will be lowered

So what wheels work??

I see some of you have Motegi wheels. I see the offset of +42. Good?, Bad, Rub???

[KurtMP3]

Just posting for fun...oh and my stock Racing Harts fit damn well http://msg.toprotege.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Eds mp5]

lots of people have montegi's and they work depending on the spring or coil over combination you decide to get. My advice, get the springs then the rims.. you wouldn't want to spend all that money and have ones that don't fit correctly. With the lowering of your car the 40 offset doesn't work, if your slammed, go with something higher 48. i think Montegi only have an ofset of 40 though, correct me if im wrong.

[Silvermp5]

You're right Motegi have an offset of +40. I am using 17s with 205/40 tires, they don't rub because my car is not lowered. With my setup I can only drop only 1&quot; anything more will rub.

[TRF TOM]

Thanks for the info. I'm still waiting for my springs. There backordered everywhere. So I thought I'd get some wheels.

Anyone no any shops that have H&amp;R's instock???